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Critical Role Legend of Vox Machina


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Russ Morrissey

Russ Morrissey

ReshiIRE

Adventurer
It is a shame that it is with Amazon, but I hope that it turns out well. The second season has already been ordered, which is positive.

Any idea how many arcs they'll cover in this season? Should inform whether this show will transition to Cammpaign 2 after season 2 or not.
 

MarkB

Legend
It is a shame that it is with Amazon, but I hope that it turns out well. The second season has already been ordered, which is positive.

Any idea how many arcs they'll cover in this season? Should inform whether this show will transition to Cammpaign 2 after season 2 or not.
The first season is going to cover the Briarwoods arc. I doubt they'll get anywhere near the end of these characters' stories anytime soon.
 

overgeeked

B/X Known World
I don't know how official the "chapter breaks" listed in the link below are, but season one being the Briarwood arc suggests one season is one chapter, there are eight total chapers for VM. The Briarwood arc is chapter 3. So we could see six seasons of just VM following that, if it's chronological. Two more if they do the first two arcs...but that's unlikely considering the unpleasantness with Orion. But there's also all kinds of comics, one-shots, side quests, etc they could fill in seasons with.

 

ReshiIRE

Adventurer
The first season is going to cover the Briarwoods arc. I doubt they'll get anywhere near the end of these characters' stories anytime soon.

Oh wow! I thought the Briarwoods arc would only be a few episodes.

That's pretty cool. Sounds likje they're going to need at-least 6 seasons to cover all the arcs for campaign 1. I wonder how they'll change things up too; I wonder if they'll hint towards some events that happen later and such.
 


jgsugden

Legend
They've made it clear that they're making a show, not doing a direct translation of the game. As such, they make skip parts of arcs, make up connecting pieces, or alter the story significantly. I'm sure they'll keep the core beats that are beloved - but that table read isn't exactly a cut and paste from an episode.

Season 1 will be the Briarwood Arc (around 15 episodes depending upon how you measure it), and then the second season might be the entire Chroma Conclave storyline that spans 45 episodes (40% of the campaign). They did extend season 2 to 14 episodes from the 10 of season 1, and there were some draggy CR episodes in those 45 episodes and elements they may wish to steer clear of for contested rights reasons. The final 'secret' arc could be a season 3... and you might get a "Vox Machina Origins" season for a season 4. They don't need to fear running out of material - they can easily transition to Campaign 2 and then Campaign 3. They'll complete story arcs far faster on CR than they will on Legends of Vox Machina - in fact, they may start producing Legends of the Mighty Nein right after Season 1 is released if it is a hit. They could release Mighty Nein season 1 between Legend of Vox Machina 2 and 3, and then even start producing a show based upon campaign 3 two years after that and not see it hit the air until Campaign 4 begins and 4 seasons of Vox Machina ends. However, all of that would be contingent on the show getting a lot of interest.
 




What was the whole deal with Orion? Is there a bit of internal drama that I missed?
They had an (allegedly) mutual separation of which the exact details have never been publicly shared. We know he had a drug problem. We also know he (in some people's estimation) displayed a variety of behaviors in game, on stream that many would find problematic, including general powergaming, main-character syndrome, suspiciously good rolls, and some off-color remarks that others in the group seemed to not appreciate, but what, if any, of this in front of the cameras behavior may have contributed to him leaving the group and what else happened behind the scenes is unknown to us. Naturally observers trying to speculate as to what exactly happened try to parse the on-screen "drama" but that may be virtually the whole story or just the tip of the iceberg. And much of the on-screen "drama" is very much in the eye of the beholder.

Whatever happened, after leaving the show Orion kickstarted a spin-off series of audio-dramas about his character. There were accusations of mishandling funds, and he did and said some toxic things online. There was also some controversy over his (now non-player) character being killed off in the campaign.

I will note, however, that the Briarwoods arc this series deals with is the very same plot-arc he tried to derail in one of his final episodes on the show by insisting on trying to use his noble status to attempt to call in an army to just do all the work for them, when it was a whole elaborate plot-arc centered around another character's backstory. Had I been the DM we would have had to have a serious and uncomfortable talk after that, even if nothing else he did on the show was enough.
 
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ReshiIRE

Adventurer
Think of Amazon as a $10 per month streaming service (with a 1 year commitment) that gives you all sorts of crazy perks, like free shipping!

EDIT: And, you'll also get The Wheel of Time, The Expanse, The Lord of the Rings . . . . .

Not to derail the thread, but I'm really not comfortable giving money to Amazon themselves (nor to the likes of Disney either). They aren't exactly... the best company, ya know.
 

Azuresun

Adventurer
Think of Amazon as a $10 per month streaming service (with a 1 year commitment) that gives you all sorts of crazy perks, like free shipping!

EDIT: And, you'll also get The Wheel of Time, The Expanse, The Lord of the Rings . . . . .

But on the downside, it's, y'know, Amazon. If there's some alternative legal way to check out the series in the future, I'll look into that.
 

Dire Bare

Legend
But on the downside, it's, y'know, Amazon. If there's some alternative legal way to check out the series in the future, I'll look into that.
Not to derail the thread, but I'm really not comfortable giving money to Amazon themselves (nor to the likes of Disney either). They aren't exactly... the best company, ya know.
Understandable. On the balance, Amazon isn't exactly a responsible corporate citizen.

On the other hand, big-budget entertainment is largely in the domain of large corporations, none of whom are truly responsible corporate citizens. And while corporations aren't people (sorry Supreme Court), they are not monoliths either, and often perform both good and bad actions towards society simultaneously.

In my area, we have one of those huge Amazon distribution centers. Warehouses known for worker-unfriendly practices. Yet, they pay more than most entry-level, unskilled work in our area, and our local companies who employ at that level aren't known for being worker-friendly either. I know more than a few who work at the Amazon warehouse, acknowledge Amazon's worker-unfriendly practices . . . but are still happy to work there considering the alternatives. And, Amazon is slowly improving conditions as more sunlight is being shined on their practices.
 

Chaosmancer

Legend
I am incredibly excited for this show.

Also, mildly huge tangent, Same Riegel did an amazing video about a year ago, highlighting just how much work goes into making these things. It is one of the best explanations of the ENTIRE animation process that I've ever seen

 




whimsychris123

Adventurer
I’ve tried to get into Critical Role, but I just can’t. I figured when the animated series came out, I took take another stab at it. But based on this clip, I just don’t think it’s gonna be my thing.

But I’m happy for their success and I hope for all good things for this series and all D&D-related ventures!
 

Bayushi_seikuro

Adventurer
I’ve tried to get into Critical Role, but I just can’t. I figured when the animated series came out, I took take another stab at it. But based on this clip, I just don’t think it’s gonna be my thing.

But I’m happy for their success and I hope for all good things for this series and all D&D-related ventures!
That was my first response, trying to get into Campaign 1, also. For some reason, I cgave the second campaign a try and loved it. I think my problem with C1 was that when it started streaming, they were all already level 8 and had a lot of history between the characters already - made it hard for me to get into. Campaign 2 started up with the merging of a couple subgroups into one adventuring party, which made it easier to get into - if I recall right, C2E1 they had just dinged to level 2
 

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