Leif's Homebrew 4E D&D Game, nee 'Leif's Keep on the Shadowfell' [IC #1] [FULL]

Tarrk starts to swing his massive greataxe, hitting the dragonshield twice and the skirmisher nearly.

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Free: Opportunity attack vs dragonshield (1d20+6=19, 1d12+4=10)

Standard: Graet Cleave (shield, skirmisher) (1d20+6=20, 1d20+6=11, 1d12+6=17)
(Encounter, vs AC) forgot flank bonus vs dragonshield

Move: not used

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Tarrk Bloodhoove
Perception: 19 Insight: 12 Normal Vision
AC 15 Fortitude 16 Reflex 12 Will 12
Hit Points: 36/36 Bloodied: 18
Temporary Hit Points: 3
Action Points: 1 Second Wind: 1
Healing Surge: 9 Surges per day: 11/11
At-Will Powers: Howling Strike, Recuperating Strike
Encounter Powers: Swift Charge, Goring Charge, Great Cleave
Daily Powers: Macetail's Rage

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Dodging out of the way of the kobold's strike, Khellek bars his fangs at the creature and swings his blade in a downward slash at the foe, trying to remove the threat from his arcane ally.

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Move - n/a
Standard - Righteous Brand against M @ V5 (at will power, p63)
Vs AC; Damage (1d20+5=14, 1d8+3=5)
Minor: n/a
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Khellek, Shifter Cleric of Selune
Passive Perception: 16, Passive Insight: 19
AC:17, Fort:13, Ref:11, Will:16 -- Speed:5
HP:25/25, Bloodied:12, Surge Value:6, Surges Per-Day 8
Initiative +0
Action Points: 1, Second Wind: not used
Powers: At-will:Lance of Faith, Righteous Brand
Encounter:Healing Wordx2, Healing Strike, Longtooth Shifting
Daily:Beacon of Hope
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Elerosse (Eladrin Wizard)

Throwing caution to the wind, Elerosse moves forward in front of the group of kobolds with an evil gleem in his eye. He loudly cackles the arcane words to summon a wave of force in all directions. Only the kobolds at W10 and W12 stand firm. The kobold at V10 is blown into the trees, and the kobold at W11 is blown into the pool.

OOC: Results revised and corrected.

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Move - Move to V9 (with an init of 19, Elerosse should be able to keep all of the kobolds in range) mv is 6, only moved 4 squares
Standard - Thunderwave (at will power, p159) close blast 3 (p. 271 multiple attack rolls, but one damage roll)
Int. v. Fort damage = 7 + push each damaged kobold 2 away from Elerosse
attacks: V6: 18 / V10: 17 / W10: 9 / W11: 20 / W12: 13
Minor: none
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Elerosse, Eladrin Wizard
Passive Perception: 12, Passive Insight: 17
AC:14, Fort:11, Ref:11, Will: 15 Speed: 6
HP:23/23, Bloodied:11, Surge Value:5, Surges Per-Day 6/6
Initiative +2
Action Points: 1, Second Wind: not used
At-Will Powers: Magic Missile; Thunderwave
Encounter Powers: Fey Step; Wand of Accuracy; Force Orb
Daily Power: Sleep
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FYI, Thunderwave is a close blast, not a cloes burst. Blasts are the 4e equivalent of cones.

Blast: A blast fills an area adjacent to you that is a
specified number of squares on a side. For example,
the wizard power thunderwave is a blast 3, which
means the power affects a 3-square-by-3-square area
adjacent to you. The blast must be adjacent to its origin
square, which is a square in your space. The origin
square is not affected by the blast. A blast affects a
target only if the target is in the blast’s area and if there
is line of effect from the origin square to the target.

Whereas a Burst:

Burst: A burst starts in an origin square and extends
in all directions to a specified number of squares
from the origin square. For example, the cleric
power flame strike is a burst 2 within 10 squares of
you, which means the power originates in a square
up to 10 squares away from you and affects the
origin square and every square within 2 squares
of it (a 5-square-by-5-square area). Unless a power
description notes otherwise, a close burst you create
does not affect you. However, an area burst you
create does affect you. A burst affects a target only
if there is line of effect from the burst’s origin square
to the target.
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[sblock=DM's commentary on renau1g's OOC]Not sure you're right about blasts being equivalent to cones, because as far as I know there is no designation of 'shape' to a blast, and in previous editions not all cones had to begin in the caster's square. The difference between a blast and a burst is that the origin square of a blast is the square you occupy, and the origin square of a burst is some permissible square chosen by the caster, where 'permissible' means visible to the caster and within range.[/sblock]
 


OOC: I'll read those sections of the PH and post a proposed correction.
Thanks. I was too tired to even log-in last night, so I haven't noticed any problem yet. Maybe I'll have enough residual energy this evening that I can actually do something with a few of the games I'm DMing. (Gotta keep these Canadian accountants busy and happy, after all!)
 

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renau1g's OOC commentary is from 4e PH p. 272, which even uses Thunderwave as an example. There are examples given for the 3x3 squares of effect for a 3x3 burst, as well as a comparison to a wall and a close burst 1. I don't know why I thought Thunderwave should be a close burst instead of a close blast. Wishful thinking, I guess.

Note the difference between a close burst (outward from but not effecting the origin square) and a flame strike burst (transpose the origin square from 0 to Z squares and effect the transposed origin and X squares outwards). So if you call down a close burst, you are not effected, but if you call down a burst on your square, you are effected.
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[sblock=Lou]
Note the difference between a close burst (outward from but not effecting the origin square) and a flame strike burst (transpose the origin square from 0 to Z squares and effect the transposed origin and X squares outwards). So if you call down a close burst, you are not effected, but if you call down a burst on your square, you are effected.
A better way to think about it may be that you don't "call down" a close burst, but rather a close burst 'bursts' out of your square in all directions. And, if the area of the spell does not say that it is 'close', it can most certainly affect the caster if he places it carelessly.[/sblock]
OOC: Can we move this discussion to the OOC thread?
 
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