Living Supers - General Discussion Thread

[Salix]

Yeah, I think LS will slowly grow, but ti will grow... if I had time and ideas, I would run a mission, but the only idea I have cannot be run for now, and I mastering one adventure in LEW that gives me an headache once in a while as I have decide to master a large group that is not a group... anyway, I might master something, but not soon.

Your Tournament is probably the most ambitious piece of GMing I've seen in LEW. i think we're progressing at a really good pace. I'd just like to get both of my players going so I'm probably a little more impatient than I should be.

If it helps, I just bought the book yesterday. But I have a fair bit of reading to do before I create my first character.

Welcome! Any character concept you have in mind?

 

[hafrogman]

Thank you for the welcomes.

I did end up with some character creation type questions. . .

It's about shapeshift/alternate form type characters.

Now say you wanted to design (for example) a werewolf type character. This is not my actual concept, but close enough for illustrative purposes. The "Normal Identity" drawback is out because the character is not quite human, even when he looks it.

Now, alternate form would seem to be the right idea, you design a single (or more with alternate power feat) form and can switch into it. But big hairy monster isn't one of the forms, and it's limited to only listed powers anyways, no other abilities can be changed.

So is the only way to go about this to take Shapeshifting, limited at 7 points/rank and voluntarily limit yourself to a single form?

Secondly, if you wanted your big hairy monster to be able to rage (per the feat) you'd be out of luck unless you made the power continuous (+1 pt/rank) because you can't rage and sustain a power at the same time. Is that a correct reading of the rules as well?

 

[Bront]

You want shape shifting. Alternate form is for changing your substance (Colossus, Thing, or Human Torch for example).

You can take a drawback on it for -1 to have only one other form I believe. I don't have a book in front of me at the moment.

I believe you're wrong on the rage, though if you bought rage inside the shapeshift, I'd allow you to stay shifted.

 

[Velmont]

Drawback
- Involontary Transformation if you can control it.
- Power loss could do the same if you can't control teh transformation.
- Normal Identity, even if you aren't human, as long as you have no power, I think it could be ok.

Or here a neat but a bit costly way, that would even help you with teh rage:
-Put all your power to Continuous duration
-Link all your power.
As they become a all or nothing with the Linked extra, you have your tranformation. As you have continuous duration, you can use Rage. If you want to revert to your normal form when you are KO or something like that, take the power loss or Involontary Transformation.

 

[Velmont]

I believe you're wrong on the rage, though if you bought rage inside the shapeshift, I'd allow you to stay shifted.

He is right, he can't sustain or concentrate on a power during a rage.

 

[Bront]

He is right, he can't sustain or concentrate on a power during a rage.

I don't see why, if he bought the Rage inside the shape change points, he couldn't rage while changed, since he couldn't rage normaly. I'd allow it as a GM.

 

[Velmont]

If we go by RAW, you'll see in the description that you can't use sustain and concetration power while raging. Now, if you want to change the limit, it might be ok, depending on the change.

But let's say someone take alternate form(fire) and at one time, he become enraged and transform into fire. I see it fine that he can transform and rage. He is in fury and he lose control of his power and enter a murderous state against his enemy (and ally? )... Now he got stun for two rounds... as he can't spend a free action, he can't sustain his power and he revert in human form... but that guy is in fury and the power was meant to stay uncontrolled. Putting the power with continuous duration, or maybe have an uncontrolled flaw might be two way to correct this situation.

So if Hafrogman want to bend the rule to his concept, I don't see a problem, but stay alert to possible strange case that doesn't fit with the conept.

 

[Bront]

Hawkeye, don't forget to e-mail me when you're ready for approval. It might help if you removed some of the extra formatting and notes (no need to note power extras when you don't have any, etc)

The Paragon is correct I believe, but I'll run your numbers anyway to make sure one you say so.

 

[Rystil Arden]

Hawkeye, don't forget to e-mail me when you're ready for approval. It might help if you removed some of the extra formatting and notes (no need to note power extras when you don't have any, etc)

The Paragon is correct I believe, but I'll run your numbers anyway to make sure one you say so.

Isn't Alien not acceptable as a power source? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

 

[Bront]

That is correct. The Paragon is not an allien by default. In fact, there is not specific powersource for most of the templates.

Hense why we want backgrounds on approvable characters, however brief.