Lolth or Lloth

[Ripzerai]

Welsh and Spanish (where it's pronounced like a Y, so she'd be "Yoth") and Gaelic and apparently other languages as well. Wow.

 

[genshou]

Lolth (and Drow as in cow) in greyhawk, Lloth (and Drow as in go) in the Realms.


glass.

What glass said about the pronunciation of "drow" in FR. My best friend and I assume that "drow as in cow" came from a human mispronunciation, as "drow as in tow" sounds more elven.

I've always used Lolth/Lloth in the same way, saying that it was a language change along the lines of judgement/judgment or "nuclear vs. nukular". It's always worked well enough for me. Besides, if you practice, you can actually make Lolth be pronounced right (using both "l" sounds appropriately)! Lolth does not rhymy with both. It comes close, but you have to include that second letter L. It actually sounds fairly beautiful if done right. Certainly more beautiful than Araushnee!

 

[tetsujin28]

Salvatore can kiss my booty. The Great One spoke, and her name was, "Lolth"

 

[DarrenGMiller]

Lolth. Always has been, always will be for me.

I have done pretty well ignoring anything Salvatore has ever written up till now and I plan on continuing.

DM

 

[Bran Blackbyrd]

Isn't there a Llano estacado in Texas ? Doesn't sound that welsh to me

Anything with a double L in Texas is likely mexican/spanish and would be pronounced like a Y.
Except armadillo and Amarillo apparently...
So Lloth would be Yoth. :\

I pronounce it Lolth, but then in my homebrew dark elves are scarce, good and worship a mother goddess; so no Lolth for me. Besides, I hate spiders.

On top of that, 'loth is short for yugoloth and that's a good enough reason for me to stick with Lolth.

 

[Man in the Funny Hat]

Yeah, careful with that 'only the Welsh', or the Lladró people might set their Attack Llamas on you!

-Hyp.

Watch out! There are Llamas! - The Alpaca of Doom

 

[Lord Mhoram]

Lolth.

I wasn't even aware of the other spelling until I saw this thread. I might have seen it in print, but after years of seeing Lolth, I just read it that way, instead of Lloth.

 

[MonsterMash]

I think Lloth sounds more elven.

A double ll like that makes it sound welsh to me!

 

[Ranger REG]

Who ... cares.

Not like FR have to be like GH ... all the damn time. Even Dragonlance showed their deities have different names based on regions and cultures.

 

[seankreynolds]

I had heard it wasn't a pronunciation error, but rather the fact that for whatever reason, R. A. Salvatore wasn't allowed to use the name "Lolth" in his books, so he came up with a neat solution to bypass the limitation and still make it recognizable to the fans.

Not quite. RAS used Lloth in his Icewind Dale books and nobody caught the typo. Since then the books have pointed out, "Oh, Drizzt says Lloth, that must be the Menzo-variant of the name Lolth."

It's one of those "% liar" typos that continued for so long that people now think they're _supposed_ to be that way.

 

[Thia Halmades]

Actually, I prefer Lloth for the Gaelic feel as well. And I pronounce Drow, 'dray.' Nyah nyah.

 

[Mercule]

And I pronounce Drow, 'dray.' Nyah nyah.

Hmm... I actually like that variant pronounciation. Otherwise, it's drou, not droe.

I'd never heard of the Lloth thing before. Ever. Of course, I'm not prone to read either novels or sourcebooks focused on the Realms, so it's not surprising.

Lloth does make me think of Spanish, though. "All hail Yoth!"

 

[Ranger REG]

Not quite. RAS used Lloth in his Icewind Dale books and nobody caught the typo. Since then the books have pointed out, "Oh, Drizzt says Lloth, that must be the Menzo-variant of the name Lolth."

It's one of those "% liar" typos that continued for so long that people now think they're _supposed_ to be that way.

Still, is it truly that big of a deal?

 

[Psychic Warrior]

Besides, Venger pronounced it "Lolth, Demon Queen of Spiders," and that's good enough for me.

And here I was thinking I was the only one who would use that logic. Silly me

Of course I also call Drow 'Dark Elves' and Lolth 'Sertis' but what do i know...

 

[Kristivas]

I laugh every time I read this.

Sejs made my day with that too!

And I use Lloth. Screw traditional! nWo!

 

[Zander]

Hmmm. Alternate pronunciations make me think I might have to switch to Lloth. In woleaian, my wife's native language, a "ll" is pronounced as a short "r" with a weak glottal stop at the end, and the "th" at the end is pronounced as "t" with another glottal stop. So "Lloth" would be pronounced "R.aat.", with a very short "r" sound at the beginning. I kind of like that.

DM: You find yourselves in front of the demon queen of spiders herself.
Yalius: All hail Queen Raat!
DM: She glares at you and polymorphs you into a spider. No save.
All the other players in rushed unison: All hail Queen Lolth!