Long jump is higher than High jump

[mvincent]

The rules for High Jump say:
"Make an Athletics check and divide your check result by 10 (round
down). This is the number of feet you can leap up."

While the rules for Long Jump say:
"divide your check result by 10 (don’t round the result). This is the number of squares you can leap"
"The vertical distance you clear is equal to one-quarter of the distance you jumped horizontally."

Doing the math, you jump higher with a long jump than with a high jump.

Wouldn't it have been easier for the writers to say something like:
"The result of your roll is the distance in feet jumped horizontally. Halve this if you did not have a 10' running start. Also, divide by 4 to get a vertical distance."

Intuitively, this is how I was able to easily remember jumping distances in 3.5.

 

[ValhallaGH]

Nope. Because some people want to jump up without going more than 1 foot forward. Having rules for both options is an excellent and valuable thing.

 

[Karui_Kage]

So with a Jump roll of 30, I would do:

3 feet on a High Jump

OR

3 squares on a Long Jump (15 ft.)
and 3.75 feet high


That is kind of odd.

 

[Ufoosio]

yeah, to simplify they messed it up slightly. Divide by 5 instead and then you won't have long jumps higher than high jumps.

 

[Victim]

The lack of explicit round down on the long jump result for height also increases vertical leap.

 

[frankthedm]

yeah, to simplify they messed it up slightly. Divide by 5 instead and then you won't have long jumps higher than high jumps.

well, thats already done if you move at least 2 squares before making the jump.

 

[Mengu]

Maybe one defines clearance, and one defines maximum height. So you're chasing a thief along a market street and there is a 4 feet high cart in your way, you could jump over it with an easy DC 16 running jump check. And later on when you have to jump to catch an overhang that's 4 feet above you, you would need a DC 20 running jump check for that one.

 

[mvincent]

Nope. Because some people want to jump up without going more than 1 foot forward. Having rules for both options is an excellent and valuable thing.

Er... I think you missed the point, but please feel free to view the discussion as only pertaining to running long jumps being higher than running high jumps.

 

[mvincent]

Maybe one defines clearance, and one defines maximum height.

That's not an unreasonable way to view the discrepancy.

later on when you have to jump to catch an overhang that's 4 feet above you, you would need a DC 20 running jump check for that one.

Well, technically it would need to be 4' + (your height/3) above you.

 

[Mengu]

Well, technically it would need to be 4' + (your height/3) above you.

That too.