Long jump is higher than High jump

[ValhallaGH]

Er... I think you missed the point,

It's possible. If so, then I'm curious what I'm missing. Would you mind explaining it again?

To elaborate on your initial post:
Intuitively, I grasped the presentation in the PH instantly. Your presentation caused me to stop and contemplate for a couple seconds. In that regard I'd say the designers have you beaten; in other regards, such as word count, and providing the same vertical clearance for both types of leaping, your presentation is superior.
Additionally, when looking for distance covered by a jump, most people I know will look for the specific kind of jump being executed (long or high), so again, the presentation used has real advantages with regards to utility.

 

[Andur]

Well let's look at real life for a moment...

There are very few people who can d a standing broad jump and clear 10 feet, during that time they might clear 2'6", but more likely they will clear about 18".

Running long jump world record is right around 32', vertical height on that jump was only 36".

High Jump record is not even 8'. Granted it is basically a modified "long jump" and it involves flipping over your back, but still...

Anything over a 40" vertical is "great", think the highest vertical (verified) is about 51".

End of the day, due to little things like gravity and physics, your maximum clearance and your maximum vertical have to be the same.

That said, I'd just rule that your maximum clearance on a long jump = the result of your skill check for a high jump.

 

[Mengu]

Anything over a 40" vertical is "great", think the highest vertical (verified) is about 51".

Hurdles they use in track are 42" I think. And runners can clear those with little problem. In a cinematic fantasy world, I can certainly see much higher clearance.

 

[Lord Sessadore]

Well, technically it would need to be 4' + (your height/3) above you.

In other words, 4' above what you can reach while standing. Which is 4/3 height.

 

[Lord Sessadore]

Deleted - Double post.

 

[LostSoul]

Hurdles they use in track are 42" I think. And runners can clear those with little problem. In a cinematic fantasy world, I can certainly see much higher clearance.

You don't jump hurdles, you run over them.

 

[Andur]

Mengu, vertical jump is how high you can jump straight up in the air, and without bending your legs, the distance from the ground to the bottom of your feet.

A 6' runner will most have at least a 36" inseam, meaning they only have to "jump" 6" to clear the hurdle.

 

[Lord Sessadore]

Mengu, vertical jump is how high you can jump straight up in the air, and without bending your legs, the distance from the ground to the bottom of your feet.

A 6' runner will most have at least a 36" inseam, meaning they only have to "jump" 6" to clear the hurdle.

Right. So, for the purposes of a long jump, clearance is the highest thing you can get over without smashing your kneecaps into it and falling down.

For the purposes of a high jump, the number you derive from your check is essentially how high you can reach up at the peak of your jump.

Think of it this way: clearance is how high off the ground your feet are, and vertical is how high you can get your shoulders above where they are when you're standing. Sound about right?

 

[Grantor]

Hurdles they use in track are 42" I think. And runners can clear those with little problem. In a cinematic fantasy world, I can certainly see much higher clearance.

You step over hurdles, not leap over them. There is a small hop involved in getting your leading foot and leg over the 42" hurdle, but you certainly don't perform a series of 42" high leaps as you run around the track.

Besides, a hurdle track would involve 5-7 jump checks per double move.

 

[Kordeth]

For the purposes of a high jump, the number you derive from your check is essentially how high you can reach up at the peak of your jump.

Afraid not. The Athletics skill specifically says high jump clearance is how high your feet get off the ground, and to see if you can reach something above you you add your height plus one-third to the height of the jump.