LOST: The Final Season (Spoilers)


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But you see- it's not a cop-out ending at all. It's not a "crap where do we go from here... err- Bobby dreamed it all" like Dallas. All the events in the show would have actually happened it's just that, because of the time travel, those events will result, effectively, in none of them having happened in the first place. The end result of the actions in the show will wipe out the timeline they occurred in. It's not a cop-out, just a paradox. But thematically, it's equivalent to an "all just a dream" ending.
 

I agree that it's not a cop-out. It all did happen, but time travel effectively reverted everything. I wouldn't mind that at all.

However, despite it being an excellent theory (and I like it), I don't think that's how it's going to come together. I think sideways-Desmond is up to something that will make things turn out differently, with it all having happened. But that's just a guess.
 

But you see- it's not a cop-out ending at all. It's not a "crap where do we go from here... err- Bobby dreamed it all" like Dallas. All the events in the show would have actually happened it's just that, because of the time travel, those events will result, effectively, in none of them having happened in the first place. The end result of the actions in the show will wipe out the timeline they occurred in. It's not a cop-out, just a paradox. But thematically, it's equivalent to an "all just a dream" ending.
And ya know what kinda ending that is? A cop out and really lame.

And the writers know that, thankfully. :)
 

But you see- it's not a cop-out ending at all. It's not a "crap where do we go from here... err- Bobby dreamed it all" like Dallas. All the events in the show would have actually happened it's just that, because of the time travel, those events will result, effectively, in none of them having happened in the first place. The end result of the actions in the show will wipe out the timeline they occurred in. It's not a cop-out, just a paradox. But thematically, it's equivalent to an "all just a dream" ending.

In the "it was all just a dream" we end up right where we started.

I suspect that's not going to be the case.

Pre-crash, the lives of all the charcters did suck. Jacob said as much.

This alternate reality shows their lives to be better, for the most part.

Additionally, it looks like Desmond is working to reconnect people to the relationships that had Love. Even Charlie will no doubt meet Claire at the concert if this holds true.

Odds are good, the events of the final episode on the island will culminate in the alternate reality becoming the new real reality.

What will remain to be seen is of course, what is the plot twist that generates this final reality shift.

Since the survivors don't really have any new resources (Jack being the new Protector doesn't give him any more than Jacob had and failed with).

Possible twists:
Locke is actually successful in leaving the island, and that causes the alternate reality to become actual.

Locke WAS successful and formed the new reality, and Desmond is getting the survivors back together (with the memories returning) and they will then do something to defeat Locke.

Locke is somehow killed by Jack and friends, and that causes the alternate reality to become actual
 

Pre-crash, the lives of all the charcters did suck. Jacob said as much.

This alternate reality shows their lives to be better, for the most part.

Only for a few, IMO. Jack's life seems to be better -- he has a son, whom he has (re-)connected with. Miles' life seems better, certainly; Hurley's, definitely. Sun & Jin -- maybe; they aren't married, but they are together. Claire's life seems slightly better, in that she's met her father's family.

But Kate? Still a murderer, still wanted. I'd say Sayid's life is worse than it was before Oceanic 815 -- without Oceanic 815, he wouldn't have become Ben's assassin, then Locke Monster's, or felt it necessary to blow himself up. Sideways, he's a murderer anyways, and still doesn't get Nadia.

Sawyer's life -- well, he's a cop rather than a crook, but he's still haunted by what happened to his parents. He's a better person, I'd say, but he doesn't seem any happier.

Locke's life -- seems like a wash; he seems to have gotten along with his father in the sideways-verse, rather than being used and abused by him. But he's also responsible for said father's current state, which has clearly tormented him.

(Oh, and since Locke's dad was the original Sawyer, his condition means that Det. Ford will never get the closure he wants. There's no likely way he'll ever even find out who Sawyer was, barring Desmond ex machina.)

Daniel isn't a scientist, and didn't seem really happy about his life in the brief bit we saw of him.

Charlie's life wasn't better before his near-death experience showed him the "other side", and I'm not sure he's better post-OD.

Ana Lucia is a cop on the take. Libby's in a home. Ben is a wimpy teacher.

Alex & Danielle do seem better.

Most of the other Others & Widmore's crew seem to have ended up as gangsters.

Desmond, pre-near-death-revelation from Charlie, was employed, but I'm not sure how happy he really was. While he wasn't stuck in the hatch hitting buttons, he also had never met Penny.

Juliet is an FBI agent, but her son is mixed up with the aliens invading her planet and she's secretly a member of a "terrorist" group, so who knows how long she'll stay a Fed. Oh, wait, wrong show. ;)

I don't know that I'd say they are all better off in the sideways-verse than they were before they got on Oceanic 815. Some yes, some no, some eh.
 

From the Internet: "Last scene of Lost: A snow globe containing Smokey in a shower on top of sled near the ruins of the Statue of Liberty that was a cross-dressing male ghost all along."
 


Dammit, people, haven't you heard of spoiler tags?!?!111!!

But really, if they had Bob Newhart in the finale, or better, Newhart & Ed Begley Jr (from St. Elsewhere), that could be kind of awesome. ;)
 

In the "it was all just a dream" we end up right where we started.

I suspect that's not going to be the case.

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Possible twists:
Locke is actually successful in leaving the island, and that causes the alternate reality to become actual.

Locke WAS successful and formed the new reality, and Desmond is getting the survivors back together (with the memories returning) and they will then do something to defeat Locke.

Locke is somehow killed by Jack and friends, and that causes the alternate reality to become actual

How are any of these endings different from what I'm proposing will happen? Cause what I'm basically saying is that the resolution of what is happening on the island will cause the "alternate" reality we've been watching this whole season to be what actually happened... so it's not alternate at all. Which is really the only ending that makes any sense and kind of the only way they can go with all of this. Somehow the flash-sideways-verse has to actually come about. It's the only way the show can actually get a "happy ending."

My observation (which seems to be pissing off/annoying some people) is pointing out that such an ending effectively makes the entire show "all a dream" in that it will have never actually happened because the action at the end of the show will reset reality, making the "alternate" reality the only thing that really happened.

Or it'll be that snowglobe thing and all of this will turn out to be part of the Tommy Westphall-verse! :p
 

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