LOTR from a gamer's perspective

molonel said:
As opposed to what? All the people who, like you, simply say that it's impossible and refuse to be moved in any way, shape or form?

Come now. If you're saying I have to be willing to budge, then lead by example.
So, the answer to the arguement is for me to agree with you? Heh. :)
This discussion cannot be won, but the only people who believe otherwise are those who wish to say that my solution, or any that goes against the Great God Tolkien, was simply impossible.

I don't think I can win the argument. The only people who appear to believe that they can are those who disagree with me.
Nope, I'm sure they have no hope of ever swaying those who believe that the Eagles were an oversight. I know I don't.


Most questions on any forum of this size have been knocked around at one time or another.

If you have something better to do, my friend, it's not like anyone is twisting your arm to participate.
My point, is simply that the Eagle Arguement has nothing to do with the "gamers perspective" anymore. It's just the Eagle Arguement, knocked around since time began.
 

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Vocenoctum said:
So, the answer to the arguement is for me to agree with you? Heh. :)

Very well, I accept your concession.

That's very big of you.

Vocenoctum said:
My point, is simply that the Eagle Arguement has nothing to do with the "gamers perspective" anymore. It's just the Eagle Arguement, knocked around since time began.

Not quite. Those who think it was an oversight tend to think like gamers. It's similar to the Frank Miller stories where Batman beats up on Superman. If Superman were run by a gamer, he'd win every time.
 

Vocenoctum said:
My players would have killed Bombadil, then sold the ring in Rivendell, along with all of Bombadils gear.

Then they'd look at the exasperated DM with a "what?" look as he threw the adventure away and told them they all died.

I can picture the look on their faces perfectly...LMAO

But this thread sure has wandered off, eh?
 



molonel said:
Very well, I accept your concession.

That's very big of you.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, live the lie and be happy. :)


Not quite. Those who think it was an oversight tend to think like gamers. It's similar to the Frank Miller stories where Batman beats up on Superman. If Superman were run by a gamer, he'd win every time.
I dunno, Superman is so much of a literary character that he'd not work as a PC. He's more of a DMPC. The rest of the Justice League are the PCs, then Superman comes by to fix things the DM specifically made impossible for them, just so Superman could win it.

But, since I don't think like a "gamer", maybe that's wrong...
 


molonel said:
"The most critical reader of all, myself, now finds many defects, minor and major, but being unfortunately under no obligation either to review the book or to write it again, he will pass over these in silence, except one that has been noted by others: the book is too short."
He can't be that critical, compared to me, if he thinks the book is too short.
 

So there are all these elves leaving from the Grey Havens, to go live happily ever after in the land of the gods across the sea.

Samwise bumbles up to one. "Wow, are you an elf! I've never seen an elf before." [Sam pokes at the elfs sword] "Ooh, is that sharp? Can I touch it?"

Frodo makes Sleight of Hand check, inserts ring into the elf's pantaloons, aided by the distraction provided as Merry and Pippen emerge from the elves rations, clutching chests of elven personal belongings and frilly undergarments. (Three Aid Other checks giving him a +6 to his own Sleight of Hand, plus perhaps a circumstance bonus?)

Elf pushes Samwise away, with an expression of disdain while other elves scramble trying to get their underwear away from the pint-sized burglers.

Later, four Hobbits wave from the shoreline as the elves leave Middle-Earth forever.

Weeks later, Nazgul upgrade to flying mounts and end up not catching the elven ships in time. The gods kill them before they reach land.

Sauron says, "Well crap. These new rules that make you blow all of your exp making a magic item SUCK!"
 

ruleslawyer said:
It is quite possible that if the Fellowship had not braved Moria, the Balrog would be able to be summoned by Sauron to defend Mount Doom.

More likely that the Balrog would cause problems for Rivendell and Lorien, just as Smaug would have caused problems for the Lakemen, the Iron Hills, and the elves of Mirkwood.
 

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