LotR-TTT, Gospel Therefrom

[Col_Pladoh]

Well!

I finally got to see The Two towers, and what a delight it was....especially when Gimli confirmed for all what I had long asserted. Here is the approximate quote: "Female dwarves look so much like the male ones that people usually mistake them for males." There it is for all who doubted. Female dwarves do have beards

With considerable satisfaction,
Gary

 

[Mark]

But D&D wasn't based on LotR, right, Poppa G...?

I've always allowed players to choose for themselves if their female dwarven characters had beards or not. I'd explain to other players, behind their backs, that the beardless female dwarf would shave...

 

[Piratecat]

Huzzah! I knew it. I just knew it.

I have a 1st edition player from high school I'd like to suddenly look up.

 

[Outlaw]

I got a chuckle out of that scene. I always took it as an homage to D&D.

 

[Col_Pladoh]

But D&D wasn't based on LotR, right, Poppa G...?

Just so! I borrowed them from the same myth that Tolkien used for his, but I confess to tossing in a bit of Walt disney in my take on those stumpy ale-swillers

I've always allowed players to choose for themselves if their female dwarven characters had beards or not. I'd explain to other players, behind their backs, that the beardless female dwarf would shave...

LOL! It is great fun to see the expression on the face of a female player when you suggest that their female dwarf PC has a beard. I am such a mean fellow in that regard

With grinning regards,
Gary

 

[Dr Midnight]

I do so love the movie's Gimli.

The other day I watched The Last Crusade, and couldn't look at Sallah without shouting "Roaring fires, malt beerrrr!"

 

[Col_Pladoh]

Huzzah! I knew it. I just knew it.

I have a 1st edition player from high school I'd like to suddenly look up.

Just for "history's sake," I'll add that I first asserted that because I had never seen a female dwarf in any illustration--at least any dwarf depicted and identified as a female one. Yet it Norse mythology there are female dwarves named. What else could one assume other than what Gimli said in the TTT film?

Heh,
Gary

 

[Col_Pladoh]

I got a chuckle out of that scene. I always took it as an homage to D&D.

Outlaw, yoou might be correct, for I don't recall JRRT ever having Gimli say anything of that nature in the actual story. If it is a tribute to D&D, the writer had a great sense of humor

Cheers,
Gary

 

[Col_Pladoh]

I do so love the movie's Gimli.

The other day I watched The Last Crusade, and couldn't look at Sallah without shouting "Roaring fires, malt beerrrr!"

The first time Yrag encountered dwarves in a mine the avarice for their gems must have been all too plain on my face, because Rob Kuntz, the DM, made it clear that while I might extort ale from them, any attempt to gian jewels would meet with fell response...

Damn! Even though it's not yet noon i have a sudden, strong urge to drink a bottle of Samuel Adam's ale...There's some cool bottles awaiting just on the floor beside the back door, so I'm away!

Heh,
Gary

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Outlaw, yoou might be correct, for I don't recall JRRT ever having Gimli say anything of that nature in the actual story. If it is a tribute to D&D, the writer had a great sense of humor

Cheers,
Gary

Actually, if you look at the appendices for RotK (under Durin's Folk), you'll find that Gimli's lines re: dwarven women are almost word-for-word from the book. Including the bit about the beards.

Bearded dwarven women predate D&D (and likely Tolkien, for that matter) by quite a bit.

EDIT: Of course, now I wonder what the 3E team was smoking when the cut the beards off our dwarven women (which have been a staple since early on, IIRC). Heresy! Grab your weapons! They have defiled our women! We march on Renton! Barak Khazad! Khazad ai menu!