Malhavoc Products again available as PDF! (Merged w/ "consumer victory!")
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Cyberzombie said:
I am extremely computer savvy, and work have worked in IT and web security for a long time. Personally I have bought over $750 of stuff from RPGNow, so I am a good customer. I also bought stuff from DrivethruRPG.com. And, as I stated in another thread, I bought Tomb of Abysthor, Morrick Mansion and Abberations for less than they were sold on ebay, and for me, DRM has not affected my use of the PDFs at all. I can print/read from them all from the 2 places that I need to: work and home.
I don't do a lot of copy and paste into other docs, so that isn't an issue... for those that have successfully used DRM, what are the biggest barriers to them enjoying the PDF?
catsclaw
(Psi)SeveredHead
Adventurer
cats_claw said:
I do a lot of cut-n-pasting and printing (this is great for adventures and for campaign settings; both have lots of stuff you don't want players to see).
I had other problems with DRM:
1) My computer can't hook up to acrobat.com. I have no idea why this is, however. I must use MS E-Book reader - legally anyway. I cannot get Acrobat 6, and there's little point because, being unable to connect to acrobat.com, I can't activate it.
2) I have a Win 98 computer and it can't handle Acrobat 6. I had to be told this because I didn't even have the opportunity to download Acrobat 6 and find out my computer is too pathetic to run it.
3) I managed to find Acrobat E-book reader from a site that advertised itself as "legal". The product itself is free (unlike Acrobat 6.0, or so I've been told) so I didn't feel like I was stealing anything. Of course I couldn't activate it, since it didn't come with a crack - I wouldn't have downloaded it if it was advertised as a crack (or would have deleted it when it starts talking about keygens or what not). I directed a friend to the site and saw it on his computer (so I could finally download a PDF from Amazon*). The quality of the reading experience is only marginally better than that of Microsoft E-Book reader, which is to say it's crud. It's nowhere near as good as a regular PDF.
3) [Affects other people] If you use Linux, and perhaps the Mac (not sure about the latter) you can't use Acrobat 6. Not without a hack anyway.
*I despise the way Amazon sells DRM. You can't even download it if you don't have Acrobat 6 (and it actually checks to see if you activate it), and since my computer will never have Acrobat 6... well, let's just say I wish Amazon told me that before I spent my money on that PDF. Amazon was nice enough to let you download it multiple times from your account however, although (because I didn't feel like stealing) I only let one of my friends download it.
I have no idea if he could send it to a friend of his, however.
**Being a loser who is no good at complaining, I bought the same product for MS E-Book reader from Amazon. (Well, I'm a hyperobsessive Star*Craft geek.) Although the reading experience sucked, and I can't print it, at least it wasn't a game product that I felt like printing.
johnsemlak
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I have bought PDFs from White Wolf in the past and did have problems. I needed DL links resent to me at least once. They did take their time responding to my queries (several days), but I have always eventually got the file.
One interesting thing--If you have problems downloading the file using a DL link, WW is willing to email you the file. I don't know how many people have an email box large enough to take usual PDF files, even zipped.
One interesting thing--If you have problems downloading the file using a DL link, WW is willing to email you the file. I don't know how many people have an email box large enough to take usual PDF files, even zipped.
baseballfury
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Boy, you spend a few months away from the message boards and all hell breaks loose.
OK, so I've been trying to catch up on things regarding the whole PDF furor. Let me see if I have this straight:
1) DriveThru claims it is not owned by White Wolf.
2) DriveThru demands exclusivity from its clients.
3) Malhavoc will now be selling its PDFs on DriveThru's site and that of White Wolf.
So does this mean DriveThru no longer demands exclusivity or is Malhavoc getting special treatment because of their pre-existing relationship with White Wolf (the non-owners of DriveThru)?
It's nice that the Malhavoc books are available the old way, but it seems like other companies are perhaps being forced to play by different rules. So what's the skinny?
OK, so I've been trying to catch up on things regarding the whole PDF furor. Let me see if I have this straight:
1) DriveThru claims it is not owned by White Wolf.
2) DriveThru demands exclusivity from its clients.
3) Malhavoc will now be selling its PDFs on DriveThru's site and that of White Wolf.
So does this mean DriveThru no longer demands exclusivity or is Malhavoc getting special treatment because of their pre-existing relationship with White Wolf (the non-owners of DriveThru)?
It's nice that the Malhavoc books are available the old way, but it seems like other companies are perhaps being forced to play by different rules. So what's the skinny?
MrFilthyIke
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But what about the other good stuff at DTRPG? Maybe it's because Monte's fan are louder than the rest? DRM is not helpful to the strange thing that is PDF publishing. All IMO. :\
