Matrix: Revolutions reviews starting to appear.

[ShinHakkaider]

Here is something my sister wrote up after watching Reloaded. It might explain some things.

That was BRILLIANT.

And probably very right.

 

[dravot]

That was BRILLIANT.

And probably very right.

Agreed!

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Welverin]

Here is something my sister wrote up after watching Reloaded. It might explain some things.

>snip long winded thoughts<

I have all sorts of problems with that, the biggest of which is that it assumes so much, if not all, of what we've seen so far is a lie. I'll disprove that with the following quote:

So what comes next? The internet is rife with sham scripts and specious speculation. Is Neo just a software program that thinks it's human? Was it all just a dream? Though sworn to secrecy, Reeves allows that "the Wachowskis don't play games. If you're in the Matrix, you're in the Matrix. You're not dreaming and not seeing dead people, like in 'The Sixth Sense.' The story is suprisingly literal - in the Matrix, it's twisted enough being straight."

Oh, and the Architect most certainly did not call Neo a program. In fact he rather specifically said "You have many questions, and though the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human." So while they may have been feeding Neo things to make him do what they want (e.g. the food the Oracle was giving him), there's really nothing out there to support him being anything but human.

 

[KingOfChaos]

There isn't anything supporting him being human, either. Remember that the Matrix is all about appearances..since Neo 'acts' human, then he very much is 'human' according to the Matrix when in reality, he could be a program. You are what you think you are, in otherwords.

Also remember that Merovingian and the Architect say SEVERAL times that Neo had 'predecessors' or previous versions...much in the same way we have several different VERSIONS of Windows

Don't discount the theory until you have proof that it is wrong. That's what makes a theory a theory...it could be right or wrong.

Also..TV Guide's opinion isn't any better than my own. Neither of us know what the creators of the Matrix are going to do, but their is nothing stopping us from making our opinions known. I also think by the positive reponses to what I have posted means that I and my sister aren't the only ones who see the correlation between the Bible and the Matrix or the fact that Neo may actually be a program.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Also..TV Guide's opinion isn't any better than my own. Neither of us know what the creators of the Matrix are going to do, but their is nothing stopping us from making our opinions known.

...but since that quote was from Keanu Reeves, who has already filmed the movies and knows what's going on...its a bit more trustworthy than just an opinion.

 

[Corinth]

The films are heavy on the Gnosticism, which inverts the role of God and Satan, so the Architect (as the Gnostic God, the Demiruge) is the Bad Guy while Neo remains the hero that we all know so well.

 

[Ashrem Bayle]

Reloaded Spoiler:




Architect: Hello Neo.

Neo: Who are you?

Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix I've been waiting for you. You have many questions, and though the process has altered your consciousness you remain irrevocably human ergo some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

Neo: Why am I here?

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden asciduously avoided it is not unexpected, and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexorably....here

Neo: You haven't answered my question.

Architect: Quite right. Interesting...that was quicker than the others.

(TV Neos: Others [how many others?] what others? answer my question!)

Architect: The matrix is older than you know. I prefer counting from the emergence of one integral anomaly to the emergence of the next, in which case this is the 6th version.

(Tv Neos: 5 ones before me? 4...3..2.. what are you talking about? There are only 2 possible explanations, either no one told me....)

Neo: ...or no one knows.

Architect: Precisely. As you are undoubtedly gathering, the anomaly is systemic--creating fluctuations in even the most simplistic equations.

(Tv Neos: You can't contol me! I'm gonna smash the wall I'll in kill you! etc..)

Neo: Choice. The problem is choice.

Cut to Trinity vs Agent.

Architect: The first Matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect. It was a work of art...flawless, sublime. And triumphed equally only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being. Thus. I redesigned it based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another--An intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its Mother.

Neo: The Oracle.

Architect: Please (sarcastic). As I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution whereby nearly 99% of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice...even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo those that refused the program, while a minority, if unchecked would constitute an escalating probability of disaster.

Neo: This is about Zion.

Architect: You are here because Zion is about to be destroyed--its every living inhabitant terminated, its entire existence eradicated.

Neo: Bull

(TV Neos: Bull! Bull! Bull!)

Architect: Denial is the most predictable of all human responses, but rest assured...this will be the 6th time we have destroyed it, and we have become exceedingly efficient at it.

[Cut to Trinity vs Agent]

Architect: The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you cary, reinserting the prime program. After which, you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals--16 females, 7 male--to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the Matrix, which coupled with the extermination of Zion will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race.

Neo: You won't let it happen. You can't. You need human beings to survive.

Architect: There are levels of survival we are prepared to accept. However the relevant issue is whether or not you are ready to accept the responsibility of the death of every human being on this world. It is interesting reading your reactions. Your 5 predecessors were, by design, based on a similar predication--a contingent affirmation that was meant to create a profound attachment to the rest of your species, facilitating the function of the One. While the others experienced this in a very general way, your experience is far more specific--vis a vis..love.

Neo: Trinity.

Architect: Appropos, she entered the matrix to save your life, at the cost of her own.

Neo: No...

Architect: Which brings us at last to the moment of truth, wherein the fundamental flaw is ultimately expressed, and the anomaly revealed as both beginning and end. There are two doors. The door to your right leads to the Source, and the salvation of Zion. The door to your left leads back to the matrix, to her and to the end of your Species. As you adequately put, the problem is choice. But we already know what you are going to do, don't we? Already, I can see the chain-reaction--the chemical precursors that signal the onset of an emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic and reason--an emotion that is already blinding you from the simple and obvious truth...she is going to die, and there is nothing you can do to stop it.

Architect: Hope. It is the quintessential human delusion, simultaneously the source of your greatest strength and your greatest weakness.

Neo: If I were you, I would hope that we don't meet again.

Architect: We won't.

Neo exits out of the left door.

The only mention of the word "version" is reffereing to the Matrix itself. Neo is said to have "predecessors", but it is never said that there were previous "versions" of the One.

 

[Desdichado]

There isn't anything supporting him being human, either. Remember that the Matrix is all about appearances..since Neo 'acts' human, then he very much is 'human' according to the Matrix when in reality, he could be a program. You are what you think you are, in otherwords.

Also remember that Merovingian and the Architect say SEVERAL times that Neo had 'predecessors' or previous versions...much in the same way we have several different VERSIONS of Windows

Don't discount the theory until you have proof that it is wrong. That's what makes a theory a theory...it could be right or wrong.

Also..TV Guide's opinion isn't any better than my own. Neither of us know what the creators of the Matrix are going to do, but their is nothing stopping us from making our opinions known. I also think by the positive reponses to what I have posted means that I and my sister aren't the only ones who see the correlation between the Bible and the Matrix or the fact that Neo may actually be a program.

Two BIG problems, though. This isn't TV guide's "opinion" -- these are quotes from Keanu Reeves, who, as I'm sure you know, read the script, said the lines, acted out the part, etc. I disagree fundamentally that your opinion about what will happen in the next movie is as good as his, or that "neither of [you] know what the creators of the Matrix are going to do."

Also, you (or your sister) erroneously proclaim that the Architect called Neo a program. Since this never happened, you're pinning your entire theory on a completely unfounded speculation.

All in all, nice try and very interesting, but don't get too attached to it.

 

[Welverin]

...but since that quote was from Keanu Reeves, who has already filmed the movies and knows what's going on...its a bit more trustworthy than just an opinion.

and

Two BIG problems, though. This isn't TV guide's "opinion" -- these are quotes from Keanu Reeves, who, as I'm sure you know, read the script, said the lines, acted out the part, etc. I disagree fundamentally that your opinion about what will happen in the next movie is as good as his, or that "neither of [you] know what the creators of the Matrix are going to do."

Also, you (or your sister) erroneously proclaim that the Architect called Neo a program. Since this never happened, you're pinning your entire theory on a completely unfounded speculation.

Thank you.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

And one other thing...

One thing mentioned in that long(and definatly interesting, even if I don't agree) theory is the Spoon Kid. No, he's OBVIOUSLY not still in the Matrix as the theory assumes...the Kid said "One of the Orphans told me to give you this", and since you can't get INTO the Matrix unless you're a certain age(well, join a ship at least. But put two and two together, here), you can ACCESS the Matrix. So...the Spoon Kid, and the other Orphans we saw, are probably already OUT.