Mel Gibson and the Crop Circles, what a crap!

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

So you're sayin that an omnipotent, omnicient God can't be held responsible for bad things that happen, only the good?

Isn't this also called "the rock of the atheist". I am afraid it leads into a religious debate, but (I think) it is and will probably ever be a valid point of atheists.
There are believers that have found answers for themselves and other believers, but they are, unfortunately, not provable or explainable with logic.

 

[Black Omega]

I'm just saying that by showing the demonmobile, for no reason, was just foolish and pointless - something that doesn't make the movie better and in fact leads to criticisms.

Minor question since this has been puzzling me. What demon mobile?

We do see lights in the sky. Pretty much nothing more, except one bird getting too close and falling dead.

 

[Pielorinho]

You think Mel should be mad? This whole thing was engineered to restore his faith; he should be grateful.

Everyone else on earth, on the other hand. . . .

Daniel

 

[Brown Jenkin]

You think Mel should be mad? This whole thing was engineered to restore his faith; he should be grateful.

Everyone else on earth, on the other hand. . . .

Daniel

Depends on the everyone else. There were at least some other "faithful" in the Holy Lands that did ok. Now alot of humans will be dead or pissed, but that would be the case in any "post-appocalytic" or "religious end of days" (any religion) scenareo. Look at War of the Worlds, lots of dead and civilazation destroyed but Tom Cruise's family all survived and came together as a family. One can't hold God or the Filmmaker responsible for making everything right when the focus of the movie is just on one man and his family.

 

[Quasqueton]

You think Mel should be mad? This whole thing was engineered to restore his faith; he should be grateful.

Yeah. "You killed my wife, afflicted my son with a dangerous disease, made my daughter weird, and denied my brother his chance at athletic and career greatness, all so you could restore my faith in you. Thanks. Couldn't you just have sent me a vision of the Virgin Mary, instead?"

Everyone else on earth, on the other hand. . . .

Hehe. Yeah, that sucks.

Remember that scene in "Oh God" (George Burns) where He made it rain inside John Denver's car. "Why spoil everyone else's day?"

Quasqueton

 

[der_kluge]

As an IT professional, Independence Day takes the cake for the most mind-blowingly stupid way to defeat the enemy. The odds that one could compile code and upload them into ALIEN technology and have it execute have to be something on the order of 500 quintrillion to 1.


Jurassic Park takes a close second.

12 year old girl "Oh, this is UNIX. I know this."
Wait, it's a virtual reality operating system. That's not UNIX. Oh, and it's running on a Mac - with an IBM keyboard. That's definitely not UNIX.

Unless she was referring to some space-sim video game called "Eunechs" the chances are that a 12 year old girl knows UNIX are slim to none.

 

[Arnwyn]

Minor question since this has been puzzling me. What demon mobile?

The very same spaceship unequivocally referred to in multiple posts by multiple people throughout this entire thread.

 

[Desdichado]

So you're sayin that an omnipotent, omnicient God can't be held responsible for bad things that happen, only the good?

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Uh, you wanna come to Circvs Maximvs with that question? I'd love to answer it, but I can't imagine how I can on ENW.

 

[Rackhir]

As an IT professional, Independence Day takes the cake for the most mind-blowingly stupid way to defeat the enemy. The odds that one could compile code and upload them into ALIEN technology and have it execute have to be something on the order of 500 quintrillion to 1.


Jurassic Park takes a close second.

12 year old girl "Oh, this is UNIX. I know this."
Wait, it's a virtual reality operating system. That's not UNIX. Oh, and it's running on a Mac - with an IBM keyboard. That's definitely not UNIX.

Unless she was referring to some space-sim video game called "Eunechs" the chances are that a 12 year old girl knows UNIX are slim to none.

Well they were essentially trying to "crash" the alien systems (always easier than actually doing something) and the aliens were estabished as using at least some "earth compatible tech" like the timing signal transmitted through the com sats. Plus, Jeff was supposed to be an uber hacker and they had access to an unsecured terminal (the fighter), it was reasonable within the constraints of the plot.

So that aspect of things was no sillier than many other things in the film. Like the fact that they were using air to air missiles designed to shoot down lightly armored aircraft against a 26 mile diameter floating fortress capable of making deorbiting on its own.

One could also view Jurassic Park as forsighted (it does take place at an uspecified time) given that the Mac OS is in fact now based on unix. I think you are kidding yourself if you think there are no 12 yr old female computer jockies out there, however rare they might be.

 

[Rackhir]

Uh, you wanna come to Circvs Maximvs with that question? I'd love to answer it, but I can't imagine how I can on ENW.

It is probably best if you don't try to.

Though you can send me a personal email if you really want to. I've spent a significant amount of time arguing this sort of thing with a fundamentalist christian co-worker and quite frankly neither of us ever really made much of a dent in the other's point of view. Our default assumptions and points of views were simply too divergent.