Mel Gibson and the Crop Circles, what a crap!

Morrus said:
(but then, in Independence Day, the aliens thoughtfully had Miscrosoft compatible hardware and software - Bill Gates really does get around!).

Or maybe... Bill Gates *is* an alien, hence the compatible OS!!!

Rackhir said:
Actually it was Apple Compatible hardware. That was a Mac Laptop that Jeff Goldblume had, which was why he could pull it off. Bill Gates doesn't generate a reality distortion field like Steve Jobs does..

D'oh! There goes that theory. I forgot about the Macs in that movie (tried to block all of it out of my mind, actually).

Is Woz really an alien?
 

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I stand by "Signs." I can say I liked it because I realized it wasn't a science fiction movie, but an apocalyptic fantasy, where demons captured the sinners and doubters and took them away.

The aliens were demons. If you remember, toward the end they announce on the TV that, "A low-tech way to defeat the creatures was discovered in the Holy Land." And then in a priest's house the water burns the aliens. Demons have always had an aversion to water, and it makes sense that holy water would burn them.

Seriously, since when has an alien invasion movie been science fiction? We know it's B.S. You either nuke a planet from orbit, or if you really need resources you get them from asteroids or uninhabited planets. If you're watching a movie about alien invaders you're already suspending your disbelief some, so why not suspend it some more.

"Signs" took the classic idea of invaders from beyond, gave it an even more primordial spin, and worked it into a religious allegory of redemption and regaining faith. It also scared me, but then again I went in wanting to be scared and entertained.

Overanalyzing any movie can lead to its downfall. In general as long as the acting is good and there's drama, I'll accept what ever manner of contrived scenarios are showcased. I'll let myself be entertained. Only afterward will I decide whether the movie was any good. (Note that this is what I normally do. When I see true crap like Elektra or Ultraviolet, where the acting is bad and the presentation is lame, I'll decide pretty quick whether I hate the movie.)

But yeah, I liked Signs.
 

I prefered to think of the things that emerged from the ships to be like some sort of synthetic thing, a robot of some type, designed specifically to harvest people.

The doors thing I can give a pass to. I think it's probably an homage to the original War of the Worlds, where the fact that the martians 'understood doors' was a big, big deal. It's also a staple of early SF that an extremely advanced race would forget what simple tools were like. If a door always opens when you approach it, you might indeed be baffled by one that you have to manually open.

However, all that's by the wayside. He didn't set out to make an SF movie here. It's a movie about faith, it's loss and renewal, and that whole 'there are no coincidences' thing (the reason the young boy has asthma is to save him from the poison gas the aliens use, the reason the girl has her weird water obsession is to give the older boy ammo, etc), with some SF backdrops.
 

I'm with RangerWickett: if you think of the aliens as demons instead, the movie makes much more sense. I pretty much liked it (although The Village was absolutely wretched).

Daniel
 

Some aliens may be hurt by water,but they would be so diffent than us they could not live at all on Earth. It would kill them in seconds,I think.
 
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Pielorinho said:
I'm with RangerWickett: if you think of the aliens as demons instead, the movie makes much more sense. I pretty much liked it (although The Village was absolutely wretched).

That's okay. Unbreakable rocked my little world.

If you want to watch Sagiro get genuinely angry, mention "Independence Day." It's his least favorite movie of all time.
 

I agree, it has problems with logic and possibly the laws of physics. But so do a lot of Sci-Fi movies and shows. The new Battlestar Galactica, for instance. I could write pages on the problems with it, both in logic and science. But that doesn't stop people from drooling how great it is.
 

Okay, I can accept the fact it is really a religious minded movie about faith and demons, which I really didn't notice. But in this case I want to see it clearly made a fantasy or horror film, not something that mixes everything and its brother together. And so why Crop Circles??? Why not straight horror, something Cthulhu-like about "when the stars are right a gate opens to the demon world"? Plus I don't like that a movie will deceive me into telling me first it's sci-fi, and then turns out to be a sermon. :mad:
 

Turanil said:
Okay, I can accept the fact it is really a religious minded movie about faith and demons, which I really didn't notice. But in this case I want to see it clearly made a fantasy or horror film, not something that mixes everything and its brother together. And so why Crop Circles??? Why not straight horror, something Cthulhu-like about "when the stars are right a gate opens to the demon world"? Plus I don't like that a movie will deceive me into telling me first it's sci-fi, and then turns out to be a sermon. :mad:

When did anyone involved with the movie say it was sci-fi? Just because it has some of the trappings of sci-fi, doesn't mean it is. Not to mention that the term science-fiction is a very nebulous one (just ask Harlan Ellison ;) ). I guess I might see your frustration if the director had been...Woody Allen. But, it's an M. Night Shyamalan film. When I watch one of his movies, I don't expect hard physics and hyper-realism. I expect weirdness.
 

I like the demon theory of the movie a lot, but I'm not at all convinced that Shyamalan intended it. Certainly he used a lot of alien-invasion trappings. What can I say? The Lord--err, director--works in mysterious ways.

(And yeah--Unbreakable was great!)

Daniel
 

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