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Mithril bucker, or light shield


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Felix said:
And if being connected makes things the same, then where do you draw the line? Remember the old song, "Hand bone connected to the arm bone / arm bone connected to the shoulder bone..." So your argument would seem to say:

Hand = Forearm
Forearm = Upper arm
Upper arm = Shoulder
Shoulder = Spine
Spine = Hips
Hips = Femur
Femur = Tibia
Tibia = Ankle
Ankle = Foot

Hand = Foot?

Where does your transitive property of anatomy stop?
That is a ridiculous conclusion from my argument, and you know it :D


Felix said:
The buckler imposes a -1 penalty because of the weight? Where is this from?
You know what, I don't know! I just reviewed the SRD at it sure ain't there... Maybe I made it up.... Unless there is an additional entry in the PHB that is not in the SRD, then I'm sincerely sorry for throwing that into the argument. But I was sure I had read it somewhere.....

Felix said:
This suggests that it is not the weight but rather something else that imposes the penalty.
Possibly so.
 

Legildur said:
You know what, I don't know! I just reviewed the SRD at it sure ain't there... Maybe I made it up.... Unless there is an additional entry in the PHB that is not in the SRD, then I'm sincerely sorry for throwing that into the argument. But I was sure I had read it somewhere.....

p.124 phb

Buckler

You can also use your shield arm to wield a weapon (whether you are using an off-hand weapon or using your offhand to help wield a two-handed weapon), but you take a -1 penalty on attack rolls while doing so because of the extra weight on your arm.

Im assuming thats what you read, it also states that penalty stacks with other penalties and if you use the off hand for fighting you dont get the ac bonus for the buckler
 

bestone said:
p.124 phb

Buckler

You can also use your shield arm to wield a weapon (whether you are using an off-hand weapon or using your offhand to help wield a two-handed weapon), but you take a -1 penalty on attack rolls while doing so because of the extra weight on your arm.

Im assuming thats what you read, it also states that penalty stacks with other penalties and if you use the off hand for fighting you dont get the ac bonus for the buckler
ha! So, contrary to popular belief, I'm not totally mad! Thanks Bestone. I hate relying on the SRD......
 

FWIW and not to beat a dead equine...but this just in from the latest DnD FAQ dated 1/26/2007



The duskblade’s armored mage class feature (Player’s Handbook II, 20) allows you to cast spells while wearing a shield with no arcane spell failure. If the duskblade has a sword in one hand and a shield in the other, can they still cast spells? If not, why carry a shield?


You need a free hand to cast a spell with a somatic component, and to cast a spell with a material or focus component, you need that component at hand (which usually means you need a free hand to manipulate it). The buckler and light shield both allow you to use your shield hand for such activities.


A duskblade using a heavy shield and holding a weapon or other object in his other hand can only cast spells that don’t include the components listed above, despite the fact that he ignores the arcane spell failure chance for the heavy shield.
 

while the sage is not the best source to fix an argument, I see nothing wrong with assuming that because the buckler and light shield don’t expressly forbid the use of the hand while the heavy shield does, one can assume casting with a buckler or shield (baring any asf chance) is fair game. Keep your sudo authentic seeming rules based on reality out of my peanut butter. :p

mmmm magic peanut butter.
 
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