D&D 5E (2014) Monster Manual soon to be in the wild!

PinkRose · Aug 15, 2014

I can confirm, since that is me in the picture, that the dragons are all listed under 'D'.

Sword of Spirit · Aug 15, 2014

Hmmm...

From the spoilers, it seems that there are only four dragon age categories: Wyrmling, Young, Adult, and Ancient. I wasn't expecting a full 12, but I kind of got the impression we'd have a good 6 or 7. I'm not sure where to put a dragon teenager with that setup. :erm:

(And yes, I actually do need dragon "teenager" stats for a part of my campaign.)

Overall it looks like a good fairly complete list, with one glaring omission that bugs the crap out of me: the celestials. I can't see any guardinals, eladrin, or archons.

I really think WotC could benefit from some consumer response consulting just to have someone one step removed from design to tell them, "You probably don't want to do that. People will go ape****." There are a lot of us Planescape fans who are going to be disappointed, since it's pretty clear that anything that isn't going to be in the core three (or isn't an adventure path) is something floating off in the land of "maybe we'll do it, but we have no plans as of yet."

Meanwhile, I have empty Upper Planes.

Sonny · Aug 15, 2014

Marshall said:
Im shocked. Shocked that WotC is so incompetent that they were telling all their gencon DMs as late as last week that they couldnt have the mods because they hadnt finalized the MM...

...bodes well for the Adventurers Leagues future...

Someone obviously made a mistake. It happens with people. There's nothing shocking about it.

We knew when the Monster Manual was done because of Mearls: https://twitter.com/mikemearls/status/493072545298792448

Surprised no one pointed that out to them.

Steely Dan · Aug 15, 2014

Sword of Spirit said:
Meanwhile, I have empty Upper Planes.

Angels and celestials are both in the MM.

Sword of Spirit · Aug 15, 2014

Steely Dan said:
Angels and celestials are both in the MM.

You mean archons, guardinals, and eladrin? Are they hidden under the Empyrean entry? That was an idea I entertained from the table of contents, but the index didn't have any corroboration.

Steely Dan · Aug 15, 2014

Sword of Spirit said:
You mean archons, guardinals, and eladrin? Are they hidden under the Empyrean entry?

They might be under Celestials, I do not know what this Empyrean thing is, I will be deeply disappointed if they stuff Archons, Eladrin or Guardinals in there.

Ravenheart87 · Aug 15, 2014

Sword of Spirit said:
You mean archons, guardinals, and eladrin? Are they hidden under the Empyrean entry? That was an idea I entertained from the table of contents, but the index didn't have any corroboration.

You might have failed a perception (or investigation) check, because Angels are actually in the table of contents.