Monte Cooks WoD is for 3.5

[Tharen the Damned]

Dood! Yer hurtin' my ears.

I have to scream to make myself heard.

 

[Aus_Snow]

I have to scream to make myself heard.

Eh?

 

[Tharen the Damned]

Eh?

I SAID I HAVE TO SCREAM!

 

[Aus_Snow]

oh.

 

[jaerdaph]

Six pages already and nobody has Photoshopped Monte Cook going Emo?

You people are losing your touch!

 

[Imaro]

Has anybody of the pro WoD or D&D posters given a thought WHY Monte Cook took over this project?

Was it because he desperately needed cash?
I do not think so, he is one of the Bestsellers of non WoC D20

Was it because he had nothing elseto do?
Nope, he has a lot of non RPG projects going, this was his last project.

So why did he take this project?
He just couldn't resist!

But why I ask you should he take the WoD and just convert the mechanics to D20 while working under the constraints of the offical WoD setting?

I think he was given full freedom to realize HIS ideas of the WoD (after all it is called Monte Cook's World of Darkness, isn't it?).

So I say it again:
I DO NOT THINK THAT THIS IS A CONVERSION OF THE OFFICIAL WOD.
THIS IS WOD IMAGINED BY MONTE COOK DONE IN THE SYSTEM HE KNOWS BEST.

I totally hear you, and agree with you. I think it'll be based on the (hopefully new) WoD, very losely, like Arcana evolved was for D&D. Still, arguably, all the tropes of dark fantasy/horror that White-Wolf's WoD excels at with a different packaging for it.

I also want to bring another point up...those lumping the system & world of oWoD and nWoD together are really talking about two different game lines with two different asthetics.

oWoD was pretty meta-plot heavy, had a very detailed and succinct "world" it transpired in and was sort of restrictive. The system, while ok, had some bugs(especially with some of the powers and Mage) that caused some hiccups in the game. And the supernaturals weren't balanced against each other.

nWoD has no meta-plot, no set world except in the same broad sense that D&D has a world, and is really a tool-box type game. The mechanics are streamlined with very few, if any, hiccups. The supernaturals are balanced agianst each other and in general use the same mechanics. Basically, IMHO, an all around better game.

If you aren't giving the nWoD a try because of it's past incarnation...well it's sort of like judging what D&D 3.5 is by reading an AD&D PHB.


Oh yeah, the nWoD is not a "third edition" it's a new game and new world, White Wolf has stated as much. It's like saying Exalted is the third edition of oWoD because it's mechanics are based of of the oWoD.

 

[WhatGravitas]

Six pages already and nobody has Photoshopped Monte Cook going Emo?

Something like this?

 

[jaerdaph]

Something like this?

YES!

 

[Psion]

I bow to your capitalization but not to your content. The breadth of creature types in WoD can be solely attributed to their backgrounds rather than their powers. You can handle all the different powers and vamp types using Racial Character Classes, as I suspect would be the subject of this book.

Sure does. Sounds interesting. And not (competently) done yet.

Do we really need another different take on Vampires in d20? Between Ravenloft and all the Green Ronin and other 3rd Party stuff on monsters?

The Green Ronin book was weak sauce.

Ravenloft is not intended to feature the PCs and protagonists, and the 3e Ravenloft material doesn't live up to the variety in the 2e incarnation.

Sure, you can play WoD as hack and slash or DnD as a high-brow RP but the way both work the best is the other way around.

I think that the assumption that either D&D is purely hack-and-slay and that WoD is purely high brow doesn't bear out in the real world, having been exposed to plenty of counter examples of both.

Taking it further, I find the notion that D20 apart from D&D is solely for hack-and-slash pretty much laughable.

You know, it occurs to me that we all may be making a huge assumption that this is WoDd20. You'll notice that the cover of this product does not sport the d20 logo. 3rd edition could refer to nWoD, considering that it is the 3rd iteration of the setting.

Would you care to make a wager on that?

I take it from this, coupled with your negative stereotype of d20, you don't play many third party D20 products, do you.

Many use just this sort of statement when they don't want to put the D20 logo on the front because they don't want to operate under the restrictions of the D20 STL. White Wolf among them.

An immediate example I have sitting right here... by Monte Cook, published via White Wolf. Arcana Evolved. "Compatible with 3rd Edition and Revised 3rd Edition Rules." "Revised 3rd Edition Rules" is third-party D20 publisher "wink wink" speak for D&D 3.5 when they don't want to use the d20 STL.

 

[Acid_crash]

I am so gettinng this book, I don't care if its d20 or Storytelling system or what...

I'm a gamer and I'm not all that picky so I'm all for this. Plus its Monte, and he does well with taking a standard trope and twisting it so its different and yet enjoyable.