D&D 4E Moratorium on 4e threads?

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The Shaman said:
Sweeping away the chaff, Darkness? ;)

You may move this thread to Meta, but my boycott of all 4e threads continues!

Well, for the most part.


I will join you in your solitude and I, too, refuse to post in . . .


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The Shaman said:
This thread was in General until the mods *BAMF!*'d it to Meta.

Ohhhhhhh, stinky
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Begging whomever's pardon but the idea of a moritorium is, IMO, a resoundingly bad one.

Message boards, I believe, are intended to foster and be a vehicle for discussion. A moritorium runs directly contra to such intent.

It would be a different matter if posts were made on a matter completely unrelated to the subject matter of the message boards but that it not the case with 4e threads.

That 4e threads do not deal exclusively, or even at all, with hard "facts" is, IMO, irrelevant, as such is not in general a prerequisite for a thread. Speculation, "what iffing," opinions etc. seem as legitimate fodder for posts and threads as purely "factual" material.

The read counts, as well, suggest that 4e speculation, if it should be so named, if quite popular, at least among lurkers.

Those who have problems with 4e threads have a simple recourse - do not read them. This is easier now that they are clearly marked.

If, however, one feels compelled to read 4e threads, even though they do not like them, and moreover feels it necessary to ridicule those attempting to have a discussion, so as to derail or prevent such discussion, their posts can be, IMO, nothing but illegitimate for they arise out of personal preference that no discussion be had on the 4e topic. That is not their right, as I see it. No poster has a right to attempt to foreclose discussion by others through ridicule or "not again" posting, however veiled or blatant, on any topic, IMO.
 

GVDammerung said:
Begging whomever's pardon but the idea of a moritorium is, IMO, a resoundingly bad one.
Psst! This thread was never intended to be taken seriously.

The mods replaced my original Humor tag with the 4e tag - and with that in mind, could I please ask one of the mods to lock this thread now? It made sense when it was on the General page with a Humor tag, surrounded by 'real' 4e threads - now it's just confusing.
 

Given the fact that 4E threads were annoyingly common from the day 3E was released, I would be in favor of a moderator enforced moratorium. The signal to noise ration is already out of balance in favor of noise on these boards, but the 4E threads are like an extra little burst of painful squelch thrown in for good measure.

When it happens it happens. Until then, enjoy playing the game you've already got. In my case, I'll probably continue to enjoy playing the game I've already got until well after the reset button has been pushed.
 

GVDammerung said:
If, however, one feels compelled to read 4e threads, even though they do not like them, and moreover feels it necessary to ridicule those attempting to have a discussion, so as to derail or prevent such discussion, their posts can be, IMO, nothing but illegitimate for they arise out of personal preference that no discussion be had on the 4e topic. That is not their right, as I see it. No poster has a right to attempt to foreclose discussion by others through ridicule or "not again" posting, however veiled or blatant, on any topic, IMO.

Just saying this once again. The "discussion" is not what's being ridiculed in my case. If the 4E threads had more discussion and less WOTC bashing Id be much more inclined to look at them favorably.

What I see in much greater quantity than "discussion" are arrogant, insulting posts like this one, which was directed at Charles Ryan, blatantly calling him a liar:

Waldorf said:
LOL

Ok, I give you that. But seriously, as a poster mentioned previously, if D&D were actually up for sale (and underlings were let in on it), no one would breathe a word about it for fear of losing their jobs in a nanosecond. They would lie to our faces first, telling us any number of things.

Think back: how much notice did we have about Hasbro's acquisition of D&D?

This kind of post is not discussion and runs contrary to what I think should be one of the things the mods should look out for: making the forums as friendly to WOTC folks so we can get some REAL news from time to time instead of speculating and "what iffing".

Chuck
 

GVDammerung said:
Message boards, I believe, are intended to foster and be a vehicle for discussion. A moritorium runs directly contra to such intent.

If and when a particular topic or style of posting gets in the way of other honest discussion, then a moritorium is called for. We have a permanent ban on a couple of topics, and on certain styles of posts in anything but the Off Topic forum, for much teh same reason.

This is not a democracy, and there is no Bill of Rights here. On occasion, freedom of expression on one topic must give way so we can have freedom in the rest.

This topic may not now require it, but it is a valid tool for the moderators, when the situation calls for it.
 
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