more than one dodge buddy?

[Chorn]

Thanee, you may be right, but I don't think it's clear-cut.

Thanee is absolutely correct as it is quite clear.

From the SRD, under general rules for feats:

"If a character has the same feat more than once, its benefits do not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description."

This is for situations such as a class ability granting you a feat you already have. For example, a third level ranger gains Endurance as a bonus feat. If you already took Endurance as a feat before hitting third level as a ranger, you wouldn't gain anything extra from the double helping of Endurance.

The benefit of the Dodge feat is to provide a dodge bonus. That benefit does not stack unless indicated otherwise in the description. But in this case, the description *does* indicate that the benefit stacks.

The description here is not referring specifically to the feat, but merely to dodge bonuses in general. Dodge bonuses always stack with each other as a general rule. For example, you can gain dodge bonuses from Combat Expertise and Mobility.

Personally, my interpretation is #3. You can go with 4 if you like, and we can agree to disagree. I don't think either interpretation is more defensible, purely as a matter of interpretation; it comes down to preference.

Your interpretation is completely wrong and has no basis. As Thanee stated above, feats can never be taken more than once by default. All feats that can be taken more than once will say so under Special if they can be taken more than once and how to apply its effects.

 

[Hypersmurf]

YMMV, but I think the SRD has several reasonable interpretations:

There's also number 5.

If you have Dodge from more than one source, then since it is not indicated otherwise in its description, its effects do not stack.

The effects of Dodge? You receive a +1 bonus against one opponent you nominate.

If you have Dodge from more than one source, their effects do not stack... so you receive a +1 bonus against one opponent you nominate.

If you received a +1 bonus against two opponents you nominated, an effect of the feat would be stacking...

-Hyp.

 

[Corsair]

I agree with Hyp. You either have the feat, or you don't. You don't get multiple uses of the feat unless the feat specifically says so.

 

[Storyteller01]

I am talking about those who have defensive throw and/or elusive target. Both of those allow extra attacks on foes who miss you, but that's only against the foe you designate as being your dodge buddy.

So this would be the one designee. I want to know if there is ever a way they can exploit this to use defensive throw to charge through 5 opponents (who all miss) so they get free trip attacks. Then if they hit you can have karmic strike and hit them anyway.

-A

Since the description of the ability specifically says to treat these bonuses as a Dodge feat bonus, you should be able to thrown multiple targets once you have the Defensive Throw Feat, provided all opponents miss.

The main catch: You can't use the Ninja'a Multiple Dodge ability while in armor with a check penalty greater than 0. It's a great tactic for thug womping though...

 

[UltimaGabe]

The Drunken Master from Complete Warrior gets an ability called Swaying Waist that gives you a +2 Dodge bonus to AC against one opponent. they don't, however, specify whether this supercedes the bonus granted by the Dodge feat (one of the prerequisites for the PrC), whether it stacks with it, or even when you can use both at the same time (on the same opponent or different ones). That's just one of the many things that's unclear or ill-conceived by the writers, though.

 

[Caliban]

Psionic Dodge (from the 3.0 Psionics handbook and the 3.5 Expanded Psionics handbook) allows you to designate a one opponent for your Dodge and a second one for your psionic dodge, or you can designate the same opponent with both your Dodge and Psionic Dodge feats for a +2.

 

[elrobey]

Your interpretation is completely wrong and has no basis.

My interpretation may not be the one intended by the designers, or the one you like, but it's a plausible reading of the actual words.

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

My interpretation may not be the one intended by the designers, or the one you like, but it's a plausible reading of the actual words.

The problem is that it isn't.

The feat is not marked as "You may take this feat multiple times" in either the feat itself or on the table.

Ergo, you cannot take the feat multiple times.

 

[elrobey]

Patryn,

I assume you're being sloppy here rather than dishonest. The SRD does not say anything like "You cannot take a feat more than once unless the description says so". That is a complete misreading of the actual words.

 

[Stalker0]

Elrobey, can't agree with you here....the feat's that you can take multiple times are specifically stated in their descriptions. Therefore, the ones that do not have this description can not be taken multiple times.