D&D 5E Nerf to Divine Sense

[KarinsDad]

Or give the target a Charisma Save... if successful immune to being detected for 25 hr.

Nah. No need for houserules. I'd rather see the LG paladin squirm:

Paladin: *Well, he is the mayor and lawful representative of the town, but undead are evil, or at least, I think they are always evil. Shoot, I should have paid more attention back at the temple. I thought that everything was evil that set off my Spidee Sense. But why did he get voted in as mayor. Is the entire town evil? Darn, I wish I had an Int higher than 9. Now the wizard will make jokes about me if I bring this up later.*

"AAATTTAAACCCKKK"!!!

Rest of party: "What the?"

 

[The Crimson Binome]

Wow. Limited uses per day. That's a serious nerf. That really changes the whole paradigm of what it means to be a paladin.

 

[Sir Brennen]

Wow. Limited uses per day. That's a serious nerf. That really changes the whole paradigm of what it means to be a paladin.

How so? They still have plenty of other iconic abilities. In particular, Smitey McSmiterson.

 

[The Crimson Binome]

How so? They still have plenty of other iconic abilities. In particular, Smitey McSmiterson.

In my experience, the primary difference between a Fighter and a Paladin is that the Paladin is constantly going around and Detecting Evil on anything and everything. Smiting was something that you could do, sometimes, in combat. Detect Evil was for every non-combat encounter, every investigation, and whenever anyone or anything might possibly be hiding something.

 

[Crothian]

Wow. Limited uses per day. That's a serious nerf. That really changes the whole paradigm of what it means to be a paladin.

I think getting rid of the LG requirement already did that.

 

[The Crimson Binome]

I think getting rid of the LG requirement already did that.

That's more of a flavor thing, though. This is a change that alters the fundamental gameplay of the class, and what actions it takes in almost every situation.

 

[Sir Brennen]

In my experience, the primary difference between a Fighter and a Paladin is that the Paladin is constantly going around and Detecting Evil on anything and everything. Smiting was something that you could do, sometimes, in combat. Detect Evil was for every non-combat encounter, every investigation, and whenever anyone or anything might possibly be hiding something.

Perfect summation of what annoyed me with the ability. Yeah to no more CSI paladins.

 

[Branduil]

In my experience, the primary difference between a Fighter and a Paladin is that the Paladin is constantly going around and Detecting Evil on anything and everything. Smiting was something that you could do, sometimes, in combat. Detect Evil was for every non-combat encounter, every investigation, and whenever anyone or anything might possibly be hiding something.

So now they have to think about when to do it instead of just spamming it constantly.

Where's the downside?

 

[Gradine]

I actually liked the idea that Paladins didn't need LoS for Divine Sense
You have a private audience with Kaius III, and pull off Divine Sense, you ping an undead creature. Is it a skeletal minion hiding in a secret compartment? You don't know. Now if it's only LoS, there's no mystery. You know Kaius is undead (unless your companions are hiding something, anyway).

 

[Falling Icicle]

I fully approve of this change. There are few things I hated more about older editions than paladins running around spamming their evil radar.