(Netflix) K-POP DEMON HUNTERS

[MarkB]

I have said elsewhere I think the main problem with Golden is that parts of it just make no sense if you have not seen the movie. Like, they mention being a hunter in the song. If you have never seen the movie I cannot imagine how that would make any sense given what the rest of the song is about.

It doesn't make sense to the fans in-universe either, since the public don't know they're hunters, but it's just one line. The rest of the song is all about overcoming their past and finding their true identity, which is pretty universal.

And how many people really listen to the lyrics, anyway?

 

[Jahydin]

KPop Demon Hunters Writer Says He Used AI To Write ‘Soda Pop’

Vince spoke at an OpenAI event about the future of AI and K-pop

kotaku.com

I had a feeling...

 

[Gradine]

It sounds like he was using ChatGPT as a sounding board for punching up some of the lyrics? Like, I hate AI slop as much as the next gal but it's not like they went "Siri write me a stupid song" because they didn't want to pay actual creatives. Catastrophic climate impact notwithstanding, that's about the most ethical use for creative output that AI is going to muster.

 

[MoonSong]

It sounds like he was using ChatGPT as a sounding board for punching up some of the lyrics? Like, I hate AI slop as much as the next gal but it's not like they went "Siri write me a stupid song" because they didn't want to pay actual creatives. Catastrophic climate impact notwithstanding, that's about the most ethical use for creative output that AI is going to muster.

I understood it more like he used it to make an analysis of common lyrics and metaphors in Kpop hits so that Soda Pop sounded deliberately formulaic and cliched.

 

[Gradine]

I understood it more like he used it to make an analysis of common lyrics and metaphors in Kpop hits so that Soda Pop sounded deliberately formulaic and cliched.

Yeah, basically he used it as a research tool. Which... seems fine to me? Like... what you'd want it to be used for, rather than generating creative content itself?

 

[Umbran]

It doesn't make sense to the fans in-universe either, since the public don't know they're hunters, but it's just one line. The rest of the song is all about overcoming their past and finding their true identity, which is pretty universal.

The song also refers to being a queen, and a ghost, none of which make literal sense.

But, folks, really - songs use metaphors without explanation all the time. The audience will take it figuratively, and not worry about it.

And how many people really listen to the lyrics, anyway?

"Take your baby by the wrist, and in her mouth an amethyst."
- "Dance Hall Days", Wang Chung.

"I am the walrus, goo-goo g'joob."
- "I am the Walrus", the Beatles

"Sumer is icumen in, Lhude sing cuccu."
- drunken English folks, 13th century.

 

[MoonSong]

The song also refers to being a queen, and a ghost, none of which make literal sense.

But, folks, really - songs use metaphors without explanation all the time. The audience will take it figuratively, and not worry about it.



"Take your baby by the wrist, and in her mouth an amethyst."
- "Dance Hall Days", Wang Chung.

"I am the walrus, goo-goo g'joob."
- "I am the Walrus", the Beatles

"Sumer is icumen in, Lhude sing cuccu."
- drunken English folks, 13th century.

Half of Kpop is gibberish to the average listener anyway.

 

[Gradine]

It's important to point out that the guy who wrote most of the catchiest American pop music of the 90's and early 00's was a Swedish dude with a very tenuous grip on the English language.

 

[Jahydin]

I hope it gets a physical release, especially 4k. I would buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[Staffan]

It's important to point out that the guy who wrote most of the catchiest American pop music of the 90's and early 00's was a Swedish dude with a very tenuous grip on the English language.

Not sure whether you mean Denniz Pop (who died in the early 00s) or his "apprentice" Max Martin (who's still very much active), but I'll have you know that we Swedes have an excellent grasp of English.