New Angel tonight (1/15/03)

[WizarDru]

One note about Lady Chatterly - er, Cordelia: Notice that the Beast did not hurt Angel nearly as much as she did.

Confession time: the Angel/Cordy relationship has always bothered me...not so much that it doesn't work, but it sort of invalidates the Angel/Buffy relationship. I might not mind it as much if it were skewed more towards the "I love you Cordelia...you know, since I can't have Buffy, and all." That, and I sometimes wonder if Angel ever conceives of the danger being happy, truly happy, puts him in.

Wesley/Fred: She really is pretty darned clueless, isn't she?

I don't think she's clueless so much as conflicted. I think she realized that Westley has feelings for her (even did so with the Professor Seidel incident), but she's still a wreck inside. I mean, I think she knew how Westley felt last year, after his "Here's Johnny" event...but, well, he's English, you know.

 

[Pielorinho]

Eh. I'm not enjoying Angel very much this season, and this episode wasn't that much different.

My biggest beef is the whole zombie thing. On the one hand, it's a cool idea to animate your dead lackeys as zombies in order to be a last line of defense during an invasion.

On the other hand, it doesn't do much good if the zombies will attack any surviving employees, too, now will it?

It felt really tacked-on to me, as if they realized there weren't going to be enough fight scenes in the episode. Honestly, I wish one of the characters had just rolled their eyes and said, "Gee, looks like Joss is rolling on the Wandering Monster Table."

Daniel

 

[WizarDru]

On the other hand, it doesn't do much good if the zombies will attack any surviving employees, too, now will it?

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about Wolfram & Hart, not Enron. You don't seriously think they care about ANY of their employees, do you? I mean, they are, after all an organization run by demons dedicated to bringing about an apocalypse. They've certainly shown no restraint at throwing operatives away like they're going out of style...after all, there will always be more fools waiting to sell their souls.

And, you know.....they're LAWYERS.




Seriously, though, I've been enjoying this season MUCH MORE than last year, where I felt like the show really lost it's way somewhere around mid-season, and then went into a downward spiral.

 

[Pielorinho]

I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about Wolfram & Hart, not Enron. You don't seriously think they care about ANY of their employees, do you? I mean, they are, after all an organization run by demons dedicated to bringing about an apocalypse. They've certainly shown no restraint at throwing operatives away like they're going out of style...after all, there will always be more fools waiting to sell their souls.

Well, sure, they don't have lots of loyalty to their employees. But they obviously like having human operatives in their quest to bring about the apocalypse; a security system that kills off all their remaining operatives in a building doesn't seem like such a good security system.

Although on further reflection, we never see any surviving W&H employees once the zombies wake up; it's possible that the mojo only kicks in once all the human employees are dead. In that case, it wouldn't be such a bad little system.

Daniel

 

[Chun-tzu]

We also don't KNOW if that's why they're zombies. That was one hypothesis; the other being, of course, that it was the Big Bad that made them zombies. Which was something so horrible they didn't want to consider it.

 

[Wolf72]

lol henry, SC too huh? ... soooo is it on monday's now? (hopefully I'll see a comercial when watch my enterprise tape.

I want my firefly too

 

[Seaver]

....

Actually, I have one other favorite: When Angel and Connor are talking about Zombies.


A: "Zombies are undead things."
C:"Like you."
A: "No, zombies are dim-witted and slow-moving things that crave human flesh."
C: "Like you."
A: "NO! NOT LIKE ME!"



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This was my favorite as well. I especially liked the little smirk that Connor had on his face when he said it.

My only problem is the whole Connor thinking Angel killed Holtz thing.

Was it ever established that Connor finally believed Angel didn't do it? I know the kid still has issues and all with Angel, but hey, what teen doesn't have problems with authority.

If Connor still doesn't quite believe him why the heck is he chummy with Angel in the least?

I've seen every episode, but was I maybe getting a snack or something when they took care of this situation or did they just kinda gloss over it?


Oh and as far as the zombies. That bit of mojo didn't kick in until after the total lockdown. No way in and no way out, well except for the two secret escape routes, but I assume those were kinda like an executive only washroom. Rank hath its privileges and all that.

Anyway once things got to that point I think any human employees wandering around alive would just be considered a useful distraction for whatever Big Bad was running around. Like last night for example.

 

[DanMcS]

so um what night is buffy on now? ... I specifically did everything I could before 8p last night, just so I wouldn't get interrupted by anything/one ... only no buffy! (btw, capital region NY)

Still tuesdays, but there wasn't a buffy this week (1/14). New episode next week, I gather. See http://www.buffyguide.com/upcoming/upcomingeps.shtml

 

[Hand of Evil]

Comes on tonight (Thursday) for me. Thought I missed the new Angel.

 

[Nightfall]

I thought it was a little early for them to bring Faith in JUST yet. I mean they still have to work out Buffy's stuff. Anyway we'll see what comes further down the road.

Btw I agree with Henry, the Beast has gone from just being a simplitic Big Bad to THE Biggest Bad Evil I've seen since...well I hate to say but the Mayor.