D&D (2024) New stealth rules.

[FrogReaver]

I think we're all smarter now than to wait for an obscure podcast or tweet from him talking obliquely about RAW vs. RAI.

I miss Mearls tweets.

 

[FrogReaver]

'Somehow' covers no longer being concealed If you are invisible to me because you are behind a turned over table, and then you come out from behind the table and I'm looking at you, I can see you.

Now apply the same logic to the invisibility spell which only grants the invisibility condition

 

[Charlaquin]

This is so stupid. WotC should not be printing rules which require rejection of common sense to function.

Well, turns out I was wrong about it functioning that way.

 

[Stalker0]

I don't care about not breaking the invisibility or greater invisibility spell. They wrote it the way they wrote it. I'll play it the way I want to play it.

which is fine but provides no benefit to this thread. we are discussing the actual stealth rules, not the way your group will run your own version of stealth.

 

[Remathilis]

I think part of the issue was a desire to remove it limit opposed checks and not have two different conditions that say "you can't find me" but the simplicity of both ends up creating a Skyrim type "crouch stealth" system, complete with the spell being "auto hide".

 

[FrogReaver]

Look, I know what invisible means. It’s not my fault Jeremy Crawford spent years droning on about the specific way he was writing the rules to make things as “clear as can be.”

You might say he included some invisible rules.

 

[FrogReaver]

I think part of the issue was a desire to remove it limit opposed checks and not have two different conditions that say "you can't find me" but the simplicity of both ends up creating a Skyrim type "crouch stealth" system, complete with the spell being "auto hide".

So if wizard casts invisibility on the Paladin, the Paladin can actually sneak with the rest of the party!! That’s one small win for this rule change. Probably not worth it overall but at least there’s something…

 

[Nijay]

You might say he included some invisible rules.

They are just concealed. I take the Search action!

 

[OB1]

Now apply the same logic to the invisibility spell which only grants the invisibility condition

I'd need to see the text of the Invisibility Spell to apply the logic, has that been posted anywhere?

 

[FrogReaver]

I'd need to see the text of the Invisibility Spell to apply the logic, has that been posted anywhere?

In this thread. Let me see if I can quote it.