Yaarel
He Mage
Not a bad idea.well, this is going to be unpleasant for them, we going to get a product recall or something?
The hadozee descriptions deserve a rewrite. Perhaps customers who wish can swap their book for the reprint.
Not a bad idea.well, this is going to be unpleasant for them, we going to get a product recall or something?
Look, my racist-dar isn't particularly finely tuned, I didn't pick up on the images being problematic or a simian race being particularly problematic until the controversy emerged, but even before that, when I read the text last weekend, I was surprised that they went with a slave narrative, and double surprised that it had such an unselfconscious "white savior" element. I think you are getting hung up on the common name of the trope (as perhaps will some people employing it to argue that the Hadozee are racist).So you now can't rescue people because you are then a "white saviour"? That is quite a stretch to do in order to fit this into a specific narrative. Was Han a white saviour to Leia? And later was she a white saviour to Han and Luke to her? Not to mention that white saviour also implies that the non-whites are passive and did not help themselves which the story leaves open as it is unclear who killed the wizard.
You are making quite a lot of assumptions to fit the hadozee into the white saviour narrative.
What temple got cut from Mad Mage? I'm running that adventure, and the PCs are currently on level 10, where there are two shrines to Eilistraee. She was also specifically brought back during the Sundering, and is a deity granting clerical magic in Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide and so on. WotC may have tried to erase her during 4e, but they brought her back in 5e, and while they haven't given her much attention, she's definitely still there.They didn't really bring her back, especially when MtoF said she was a goddess barely anyones heard of, whose quest is a pipe dream. Or when they cut her temple out of Dungeon of the Mad mage. Hell, in all those articles about revamping the drow, neither WOTC nor R.A Salvator ever mentioned her or her followers. She's still getting kicked to the curb.
I was thinking the same thing.I'm starting to think Paizo was right to announce that they're not going to include slavery in any form in any of their products anymore . . .
Or those people of color were unaware of the minstrel thing as well. I agree with you they should get some more sensitivity guides for stuff like this, I just doubt anyone there had an idea the minstrel picture was a thing (I also doubt they were even thinking of Hadozee as being like black people).Which is exactly the problem. It clearly demonstrates that despite saying they’re aiming to be more diverse and inclusive, evidently “everyone involved” didn’t include any people of color (or if it did they weren’t listened to).
That's not current lore. That's lore from Stormwrack which is 17 years old now.Here in 5e Spelljammer, the hadozee are monkey-like not-slaves who enjoy being slaves (on spelljammer ships). They love serving their masters (the elves). But the elves dont actually respect the hadozee.
This is sickening.
My biggest issue with 4e was the new rules, not the new everything else. Nerath was cool.They tried that once, with 4e, and the fans emphatically rejected it.
It needs to be pointed out that the first quote he is making is from the current book. The Second quote is from a fan wiki and not current lore. While the first part is not great, it's not as bad as it seems.
I dont have the Spelljammer books yet. But the twitter posts have images with the following quotes.That's not current lore. That's lore from Stormwrack which is 17 years old now.