D&D 5E No 5e bashing, please!

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"he doesnt like 4e, whaaaa report" is throwing a tantrum. Sorry but it is.

Although thank you for reminding me of the last name I needed to block to increase my enjoyment of the forum. After ignoring hussar and pemerton this place was 100% better. You and silentson are the other 2 I needed and I havent seen him in a while so that might not be an issue.

I guess you missed the point that the moderators where trying to make, entirely. If ignoring me increases your enjoyment, please be my guest. If that is somehow supposed to hurt my feelings you have seriously misjudged.
 

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I guess you missed the point that the moderators where trying to make, entirely. If ignoring me increases your enjoyment, please be my guest. If that is somehow supposed to hurt my feelings you have seriously misjudged.

Thinking your feelings enter into my calculations in even the slightest way was a serious misjudgement.

The point boils down to as usual the current supported edition gets kids gloves, which at the moment means 5e and to a lesser extent 4e, People bashing other editions or the players thereof are completely ignored because their taking shots at non-WoTC current products.

Once 5e is officially launched for sale it will be open season on 4e the way it is now on 3e/PF and other editions.
 

Thinking your feelings enter into my calculations in even the slightest way was a serious misjudgement.

The point boils down to as usual the current supported edition gets kids gloves, which at the moment means 5e and to a lesser extent 4e, People bashing other editions or the players thereof are completely ignored because their taking shots at non-WoTC current products.

Once 5e is officially launched for sale it will be open season on 4e the way it is now on 3e/PF and other editions.

I thought I had already made it to your ignore list. If that is not so, you still don't need to feel obligated to continue quoting me.

Mod note: Please - when you think someone's behaving like a jerk, *DON'T ENGAGE*. Just ignore it and walk away, please. ~Umbran
 
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Thinking your feelings enter into my calculations in even the slightest way was a serious misjudgement.


Ladies and gentlemen,

Remember what I said up-thread, that the people you're talking to matter more than the point you're trying to make?

Yeah. Tim here didn't get that. So he's going to be taking a break from the boards.

We have, on the whole, tried to be patient, but some of you have been pushing the limits. Do remember that eventually we stop wagging our fingers at you.

Please, most of you have fine minds, and great insights. Stop wrapping those thoughts in aggression, rudeness, and vitriol.
 
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Yeah, I can see how these attitudes lead to very productive discussions. There's a reason several very good posters have simply stopped posting at all. I know some that don't even come here anymore. They got tired of having to deal with these type of attitudes. Not having their insightful and productive posts is much more of a loss to this community than posts like those exemplified above have ever provided.

Now this I must protest against. I don't post very often because I work 60 hour weeks, but if I had the number of posts that you have, I would surely have the amount of XP you do (meaning, the amount of people who appreciate my commentary).

I apologize for being insuling and I will tone down the rhetoric, but I have just as much right to post here as anyone does, and I already quit the Wotc forums due to excessive 4venging / trolling of 'Next subforums that I simply did not want it repeated here. But that's the mods' job, not mine, and for my part I vow to not mention 4e EVER again because it is an affront to my appreciation of this hobby (and probably the worst thing to happen to it in years, but who knows, right?).

And Umbran, insofar as this entire thread seems to be a free-for-all to casually throw insults my way, I find it very revealing that you take "umbrage" to my use of the word asinine, but not to others when describing my 'asinine' opinions on RPGs and games of various sorts, for which I assure you, will have more direct impact on the industry than most posters here do, given the millions of happy gamers who play the games I make. Yes, that's an argument from "authority", but it always seemed odd to me that an authority on implementing games would not deserve at least "casual" respect around here (again, you probably played most of my games, and written gushing reviews on them). But when I play an RPG on pen and paper, my standards are far more stringent, and although I write my opinions rather more forcefully than they should be, I do respect many of the opinions of the other posters here (even the 4e fans), and if I insulted them directly and personally (which I don't think I have, but I may be wrong) then I do apologize. But from my POV is seems like you're personally singling me out here and this is not the first time you've reprimanded me for my choice of terminology when, in fact, I did not violate the terms of service here. Once simply cannot say "don't be a jerk" and expect that to be a valid argument.

From my POV posting in D&D Next rules threads and saying stuff like we need more contentious (IMO ridiculous) meta-gamey rules that the designers have already said would not be implemented in the game due to their violent rejection from most of the non-4e crowd, are my version of "being a jerk". However, you're right, I should just not rise to it. This is a meta-thread and of no particular importance, and you must realize that although you can block my account here, there is literally nothing you can do to prevent me from posting here again should I so chose. My purpose is not to troll, since I never went into a 4e thread and told people "those rules are asinine!" except when I was on Wotc forums and playing 4e weekly. Then I decided to quit (rather unceremoniously, when literally every single gamer I knew either quit as well or migrated to PF or other systems, or just went back to videogaming). What I'm saying is....I grow tired as well of people picking on me, and if you expect me to lick your boots to stay here you have a serious "water-cooler power abuse" issue that transcends this forum. I will simply not listen to someone tell me I cannot "insult" or "disrespect" a game rule, while you allow an entire thread to turn my alias here into your pinata.

I assure you Umbran, people will read this thread, and whether they appreciate my posts or detest them, WILL realize the hypocrisy in your moderation inaction, when posts are clearly incendiary and directly insulting to me. Yet you do nothing. Ok, fine, maybe it's a little poetic justice for my own incendiary remarks, but don't claim to be an impartial observer, plenty of people do agree with my points (vigorously so! read my xp comments, I dare you) and you simply aren't a fan. And that's okay by me. Honestly, I make quite good money making games, and don't need your approbation or particularly care for the way this board is moderated. Sure, it's better than Wotc, but there is a lot of trolling of Next threads by 4e zealots that I don't see moderated which in turn, gives rise to threads such as these. The fact that you didn't lock the thread on your last post directed at me, when others started piling on, is simply exhibit A to your own gaming biases and has less to do with my choice of terminology than for your own biases.
 
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Once simply cannot say "don't be a jerk" and expect that to be a valid argument.
Actually, the mods upholding this one thought much more judiciously than other sites is what makes me like EN World so much. I hope they keep it up, too. As always, play what you like :)
 

I stumbled onto this recently, and I think it roughly sums up the general intent of things.

[video=youtube;0la5DBtOVNI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0la5DBtOVNI[/video]
 

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