D&D (2024) No Dwarf, Halfling, and Orc suborgins, lineages, and legacies

[Crimson Longinus]

Charisma isn't "attractiveness."

 

[DEFCON 1]

Charisma isn't "attractiveness."

True. At this point it might be more apt to rename the ability as 'Presence', as that is more along the lines of what it refers to. Verbally, non-verbally, visually, audibly, your aura, your magnetism, how you "present" yourself to other people.

 

[Corinnguard]

Charisma isn't "attractiveness."

Back in 3e, there was a short-lived attempt to introduce a 7th attribute to D&D that covered physical attractiveness. Comeliness. Charisma does cover personality, which could be seen by some as a form of 'mental attractiveness'. A person could be attracted by what they like about another person's personality.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Back in 3e, there was a short-lived attempt to introduce a 7th attribute to D&D that covered physical attractiveness. Comeliness. Charisma does cover personality, which could be seen by some as a form of 'mental attractiveness'. A person could be attracted by what they like about another person's personality.

I don't think an objective stat covering physical attractiveness makes much sense. What one finds attractive is quite subjective already, but in a setting with various non-human sapients it would be even more so. What a tortle and an elf would find attractive wouldn't have much in common.

Also, I don't want a stat tax for the privilege of getting to describe your character as hot. You're a main character in a fantasy story, you can be hot for free if you want.

 

[Corinnguard]

I don't think an objective stat covering physical attractiveness makes much sense. What one finds attractive is quite subjective already, but in a setting with various non-human sapients it would be even more so. What a tortle and an elf would find attractive wouldn't have much in common.

Also, I don't want a stat tax for the privilege of getting to describe your character as hot. You're a main character in a fantasy story, you can be hot for free if you want.

Which is why Comeliness' appearance in D&D was so short-lived.

True. At this point it might be more apt to rename the ability as 'Presence', as that is more along the lines of what it refers to. Verbally, non-verbally, visually, audibly, your aura, your magnetism, how you "present" yourself to other people.

This makes sense to me. A person with a low Presence score could be the type of person who is easily overlooked by other people (to be socially invisible or forgettable). A person with a high Presence score otoh could stride into any room would turn heads and just 'command' the room by being there.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

True. At this point it might be more apt to rename the ability as 'Presence', as that is more along the lines of what it refers to. Verbally, non-verbally, visually, audibly, your aura, your magnetism, how you "present" yourself to other people.

Renamed mental stats:
Learning
Awareness
Presence

 

[Corinnguard]

Renamed mental stats:
Learning
Awareness
Presence

What about the physical stats? Agility for Dexterity, Endurance for Constitution. ? for Strength

 

[Crimson Longinus]

What about the physical stats? Agility for Dexterity, Endurance for Constitution. ? for Strength

Might? With things like powerful build the strength score seems no longer directly measure physical strength, so it might be good idea to make the name less explicit.

 

[DEFCON 1]

When Matt Colville was bandying about the names for what he was going to use for the ability scores in MCDM's new game, it was coming close to working out to be MAT RIP (which would have been a nice little nod to the old Marvel RPG). Might, Agility, Toughness, Reason, Intuition, Presence.

 

[Aldarc]

True. At this point it might be more apt to rename the ability as 'Presence', as that is more along the lines of what it refers to. Verbally, non-verbally, visually, audibly, your aura, your magnetism, how you "present" yourself to other people.

Renamed mental stats:
Learning
Awareness
Presence

I have always been partial to "Spirit."