D&D (2024) No Dwarf, Halfling, and Orc suborgins, lineages, and legacies

[Yaarel]

Nah, presumably the creature breath's air and water naturally, because its a biological feature of being a Sea Elf.

A "trait" is nonidentical to a "biological feature".

A Ghost has traits, but lacks a biology.

Fey spirits have traits, but lack biology.

 

[Gammadoodler]

Fish arent Elves.

Elves arent Fish.

Agree to disagree?

 

[Mind of tempest]

Fish arent Elves.

Elves arent Fish.

all vertebrates are fish

 

[Yaarel]

Given by the fact they give actual spells to many species including the elf we can quite easily see that sea elf’s waterbreathing ISNT from a spell, they wouldn’t give them a feature that depends on spellcasting and just not state it’s from spellcasting.

The Elves using the design format in Mordenkainen (2022), can update to the Elves using the design format of the Core Rules (2024).

 

[Scribe]

A "trait" is nonidentical to a "biological feature".

A Ghost has traits, but lacks a biology.

Fey spirits have traits, but lack biology.

An Elf, of the subtype Sea Elf, has a biology, which allows it to breath Air and Water.

Next.

 

[Epic Meepo]

No heritage can have a proper setting presence unless that setting was designed incorporating them. In the history of official D&D, only 4e's PoLand does that for Dragonborn and Tieflings (although Planescape for tieflings is something of an exception). Because WotC won't make a new setting, and won't support PoLand, this issue is unlikely to be resolved officially.

Dragonlance was another setting designed to incorporate dragonborn from the start. The 2014 PHB explicitly states that drocanians are a type of dragonborn.

 

[Scribe]

Dragonlance was another setting designed to incorporate dragonborn from the start. The 2014 PHB explicitly states that drocanians are a type of dragonborn.

Retcon, that I will not accept.

 

[Gammadoodler]

Enhh. I don't really see "the laws of physics" as something which could or should be defined readily enough within a fantasy-world context.

I think someone could at least formally tag effects (and maybe some creatures) as magic, and those effects (or creatures) could not exist in an anti-magic field.

Edit: Annnnd...I'd be delighted if elves were one such creature.

So I was (mostly) joking about elves being winked out of existence in an anti-magic zone, but it would create a really interesting relationship between that species and magic, if things like "dispell" or anti-magic had mortal consequences.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Retcon, that I will not accept.

What? They're the same thing. What was retconned?

 

[Epic Meepo]

Retcon, that I will not accept.

That's no more a retcon than calling beholders Aberrations. Beholders existed before there was a broader category called "Aberrations." When the Aberrations category was added as a rules object, beholders were assigned to that category. No recon. Just new rules terminology.