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No talk about "The Batman"?

Ranger REG said:
Mike Mignola? Not my favorite artist, IMNSHO.

Got to agree... He was one of the crappy artiest that was working for marvel during the 90’s… I know his characters, and his ideas, have risen above that but I will always think “Darkhawk” before anything else.

Honestly, I can even put him in my top 20 of current artists. :(
 

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I hated what I saw of The Batman - this Teen Titans-style faux-anime animation is Godawful. I think real anime is bad enough; a bastardised version is terrible.
 

Ranger REG said:
Mike Mignola? Not my favorite artist, IMNSHO. But if you think his arts can appeal more kiddies -- I call his style "kindergarten grade" -- then go for it.

Uh . . . I didn't say his art would appeal to more kiddies. Please re-read my above post. But by your response, I take it that you're on the same side as my friend that I speak of in the example.

Got to agree... He was one of the crappy artiest that was working for marvel during the 90’s… I know his characters, and his ideas, have risen above that but I will always think “Darkhawk” before anything else.

Mike Mignola did "Darkhawk"? Are we talking about the same Mike Mignola? The guy who drew and created "Hellboy" ? Drew "Gotham by Gaslight" , "Cosmic Odyssey", "Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser Adventures" graphic novel, etc, etc.

You guys don't like him? Hmm....I guess my analysis was correct. He only appeals to a small niche of people. I'd put him in my top ten American comic artists easy. So who do you guys like?
 

Mike Mignola... Excellent artist. Very stylized, but can capture truly kinetic energy with a few, crisp lines. Illustrator of one of the best Darkseids. I agree with Chain Lightning's analysis... Most people don't care for Mignola because his style is not "realistic" enough. A lot of these same folks also didn't care for the style Frank Miller employed in Batman: The Dark Knight Returns. The irony is that both Miller and Mignola can illustrate in a "realistic," "comic-book" fashion if they so desired (rememeber the first Wolverine miniseries?). It's like Picasso. A lot of people detest cubism because it shatters their ideas regarding art, but Picasso was an exceptionally capable "realist" artist as well.

As for the comparison between Batman: The Animated Series and subsequent shows with the same influence, that material is far closer to Mignola than to Jim Lee/George Perez/etc. or other more popular artists out there... And certainly a far cry from the super crisp lines of Brian Bolland. I suppose one could say that The Batman is closer to Jim Lee than even to Bolland, although I think the anime influence of this more recent show is telling.

I have no problem with the animation in either case. For me, it's the quality and consistency of the story and the characterizations. So far, this latest show is low in both areas and the only reason I watch it on occasion is to see the latest interpretation.
 

Chain Lightning said:
You guys don't like him? Hmm....I guess my analysis was correct. He only appeals to a small niche of people. I'd put him in my top ten American comic artists easy. So who do you guys like?
Alex Ross and George Pérez.
 



The Batman? This a new cartoon? And I'm guessng it's America/Sky digital exclusive? Damn.

Ok after some goolging, is it batman in his earlier years?
 
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It supposed to be batman durring his first few years, probably starting at 24. In comparison the more recent comics usualy portray him in his mid 30's.

I guess the idea was to show him meeting his foes for the first time, and building his rep (which TAS glossed over a bit).

Mr. Freeze as a thief puts him in the same group as many other Batman vilians, crooks with a catch... Mr. Freeze as a doctor who became that way trying to cure his wife gives him a depths that others lack.
 

For those who haven't seen The Batman, the animation is very similar to Jackie Chan Adventures (same animation studio I think). Batman has changed more than a few times since Bob Kane created him, the most noticeable change was probably Frank Miller's, so what's a new version matter?

Was there as much griping when X-Men Evolution came out? Drastic change from the comic, the earlier series and the 'Pryde of the X-Men' movie. Ditto for TMNT tho the current one is closer to the source (well mostly*) and the live action one was just... ugh. The second He-Man cartoon was an equal waste of ink and I'd put the craptacular Filmation series above it (til She-Ra gets involved).

*Shredder's background has um... slightly changed and Baxter Stockman is more of a running joke since we see less and less of him as the series progresses. After his appearances, I think Usagi Yojimbo deserves a cartoon.
 

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