WotC non-OGL alternative to D&D

[Tales and Chronicles]

Yeah, to make it clear, I was contrasting FAGE and DAGE. Modern AGE appears to have more profound changes.

Yup, Modern is class-less, for starter, but it would be somewhat easy to use its rules to make a class-less fantasy game.

And yeah, FAGE and DAGE are pretty similar. The FAGE Companion also had the Mass Combat and the Organization rules from DAGE.

There's also Blue Rose, which use a version of FAGE, but with a very different magic/psionic system that uses a strain chart instead of an MP pool. It can be ported to FAGE pretty easily too (IIRC, there's even the ''strain system'' variant for mages in the Companion).

 

[Thomas Shey]

Yup, Modern is class-less, for starter, but it would be somewhat easy to use its rules to make a class-less fantasy game.

And yeah, FAGE and DAGE are pretty similar. The FAGE Companion also had the Mass Combat and the Organization rules from DAGE.

There's also Blue Rose, which use a version of FAGE, but with a very different magic/psionic system that uses a strain chart instead of an MP pool. It can be ported to FAGE pretty easily too (IIRC, there's even the ''strain system'' variant for mages in the Companion).

I've actually got BR2, but I'm even less familiar with it than FAGE (I was a kickstarter backer, but by the time it arrived I had fallen out of love with AGE so I only gave it a casual look).

 

[Tales and Chronicles]

I've actually got BR2, but I'm even less familiar with it than FAGE (I was a kickstarter backer, but by the time it arrived I had fallen out of love with AGE so I only gave it a casual look).

There's interesting ideas in it for sure. The setting is not for everyone, but the mechanics can be ported in a more generic or different AGE game.

 

[MoonSong]

Chaosium is offering the BRPG core book by a dollar in Drive through

 

[Matrix Sorcica]

I recently ran Savage Pathfinder. I wouldn't say it "sucks" (at least IMO). I'm not completely sold on the system, but it's something I could learn to make work (which, honestly, I have to do for 5e anyway).

Savage Pathfinder Post-Mortem (Spoilers)

You misunderstood him, I think. There was Savage Worlds and Pathfinder conversions of Earthdawn, and apparently they sucked. It's not Savage Worlds Pathfinder that sucks - in fact, it rocks

 

[Voadam]

You misunderstood him, I think. There was Savage Worlds and Pathfinder conversions of Earthdawn, and apparently they sucked. It's not Savage Worlds Pathfinder that sucks - in fact, it rocks

Good distinction.

Pathfinder for Savage Worlds is by Pinnacle, the Savage Worlds company.

Earthdawn Pathfinder edition and Earthdawn Savage Worlds edition are put out by the new FASA that has the rights to Earthdawn. The two product lines predate Pathfinder for Savage Worlds.

 

[Thomas Shey]

There's interesting ideas in it for sure. The setting is not for everyone, but the mechanics can be ported in a more generic or different AGE game.

I'm perfectly okay with the setting; as I said I was seriously disappointed by my experience with AGE, however, all the more so since I liked it more than a little early on.

 

[Weiley31]

I hear the Savage World version of Pathfinder is actually pretty damn fun.

 

[Weiley31]

There's also Gun&Slinger where one player plays as a Wanderer/Gunslinger and another person plays as their gun.

GUN&SLINGER + PDF

GUN&SLINGER is an RPG geared for short, episodic sessions about a weapon and a wanderer. A Maestro and two players (Gun and Slinger) set out into a dead planet mutated by a god's forgotten child and hunt strange bounties, investigate the world and unlock hidden powers. During play, they seek to...

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It uses Gold Fish+Blackjack as its gameplay system. (Seriously).

Just.....don't draw a Joker card or "it" will come after you and your gun.

 

[Micah Sweet]

For me, unfortunately, I can't think of any non-OGL game that scratches that itch. They're all just too different, either mechanically, or conceptually, or both, to replace some version of D&D on anything more than a temporary basis.