D&D (2024) One D&D is one D&D too much (-)

[deganawida]

I'd hope the survey isn't open to people who skipped that step, and are only filling it out because they didn't like something "they read in a forum post."

I’m not sure that is actually a good measurement of one’s knowledge of a subject. One can independently research anything without directly participating in it and form an informed opinion. Sources do matter, but actually participating in something is not necessary to having an informed opinion of it.

 

[Sir Brennen]

I’m not sure that is actually a good measurement of one’s knowledge of a subject. One can independently research anything without directly participating in it and form an informed opinion. Sources do matter, but actually participating in something is not necessary to having an informed opinion of it.

Depends on what you mean by "participating". You think people who haven't done the bare minimum and read the playtest document should reply to a survey asking specific questions about that document? Relying on secondary sources can give rise to opinions formed from a game of Telephone. And only relying on secondary sources would actually increase the odds of opinions formed in an "echo chamber"

 

[Charlaquin]

If feats are coming baked in with backgrounds now, I guess the idea of feats being optional has gone out the window?

Yes. That said, I will be very surprised if (after 1st level) you don’t still have the option to improve an ability score instead of taking a Feat (more specifically, I expect that +2 to one ability score or +1 to two ability scores will be a feat you can take multiple times).

 

[Charlaquin]

Well, I don't care for the new "furries" celestial race. Why couldn't they just do to the Asimar what they did to the Tiefling? Is the furry market really that influential?

Yes, it absolutely is. Though, as a fan of anthropomorphic animals myself, I don’t like Ardlings either. The upper planes connection feels wildly out of place to me, and while the spectral wings will appeal to a certain type of furry very strongly, it’s definitely not my kind of thing. I wish they’d have gone with something more like Hengeyokai if they wanted a general furry race in the PHB, and/or Aasimar if they wanted an upper planes counterpart to Tieflings in the PHB.

 

[deganawida]

Depends on what you mean by "participating". You think people who haven't done the bare minimum and read the playtest document should participate in the survey asking questions about that document? Relying on secondary sources can give rise to opinions formed from a game of Telephone. And only relying on secondary sources would actually increase the odds of opinions formed in an "echo chamber"

By participating I mean actually playing the playtest rules. If I have other sources, such as official statements from the developers on rules and aims, reviews by friends, reviews from trusted reviewers, and so forth, I can make an informed opinion as to whether or not it is for me.

It’s similar to whether or not I want to do anything else, really. Research extensively, get opinions from trusted people, compare with everything else that I could be doing, weigh options, make a judgment call.

I am by no means suggesting that a forum post is enough to form an informed opinion about this. However, I am arguing that one does not have to actually play the playtest to have an informed opinion. There are other means of obtaining quality information from which a reasonable judgment or opinion can be formed.

If I had to attempt everything that I have an opinion on, good or ill, it would take several lifetimes (with some way to come back from death, as some of those things are fatal or close enough for government work), a ton of money, and more free time than I have with a career and a family.

 

[Medic]

Is the furry market really that influential?

Boy oh boy, do I have news for you.

 

[Aldarc]

Yes, it absolutely is. Though, as a fan of anthropomorphic animals myself, I don’t like Ardlings either. The upper planes connection feels wildly out of place to me, and while the spectral wings will appeal to a certain type of furry very strongly, it’s definitely not my kind of thing. I wish they’d have gone with something more like Hengeyokai if they wanted a general furry race in the PHB, and/or Aasimar if they wanted an upper planes counterpart to Tieflings in the PHB.

I think it's also a matter of placement for me. I would not mind seeing the Ardlings in the Planescape book. In the core PHB, however, it strikes me as an odd choice for trying to consolidate and reorganize popular choices from the past 8 years for an evergreen edition.

 

[ThrorII]

1D&D, now called "Furries & Fairies".

 

[Charlaquin]

I think it's also a matter of placement for me. I would not mind seeing the Ardlings in the Planescape book. In the core PHB, however, it strikes me as an odd choice for trying to consolidate and reorganize popular choices from the past 8 years for an evergreen edition.

Very good point.

 

[Charlaquin]

1D&D, now called "Furries & Fairies".

Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like a good time, in fact.