One Early RoboCop Reaction Calls The Remake Better Than The Original

[Crothian]

Walking Dead is based on a comic, so it is no better then movies based on books or 30 year old films. Making a Zombie TV show based on a very popular comic at the height of the Zombie craze is not risk. Pacific Rim is more original (and I don't think it is that original) and was a bigger risk as a movie. This is the End, Conjuring, and Now you See Me are just some of the movies this year that are not based on past properties.

There are some TV shows and some movies that would be a risk. Heck, I imagine more are a risk then we know about even ones based on previous done works. As I write this I'm not sure what your argument is anymore. There is no way we as outsiders can truly appreciate the financial risk of a TV show or movie. It is very possible the the shows and movies we listed as risky really are not.

 

[Kramodlog]

A TV series about zombies is very much a risk, even if the graphic novel was popular. Graphic novels about zombies are a rather niche market. Zombies are a bit more popular now, but not that much. Same for the horror genre. Killing off major characters is not a typical USians trope, athought that is changing. There is a reason why only 6 episodes were made in the first season. It was a risk.

PR is a risk because of the money invested, but it remains safe, It was a big action flick with lots of special effects. Not a big innovation. The risk was that it was untested (not a franchise) and financially it didn't pay off. With a 400 million $ gross, it barely makes the twice the production budget mark for a film to be considered successful (not lose money).

This is the End, The Conjuring, Now you see me, aren't risks. They were rather safe bets.

Yeah, I do not think you understood what I said from the beginning.

 

[Felon]

There's only a few major shocker scenes in the original. One is with ED 209, the other with Murphy's "death" scene, and then later towards the end there's the guy getting doused with toxic waste and run over.

Many a torture-porn film that exceeded this level of violence has come and gone without such fanfare. But there was a five-year period around 1986-1990 where violent action films were given bigger budgets and marketed as summer blockbusters. Horror and crime films had traditionally been the venue for violent fantasies, so flicks like Robocop, Predator, and Total Recall that combined gore with the latest in special FX were something new and (unfortunately IMO) they didn't stick.

Anyway, I'll be interested to see what kind of rating the new Robocop gets.

 

[Felon]

Breaking Bad and Behind the Candleabra were "safe" choices? For all the LCD drek out there those two are rather poor examples of "safe" choices.

No, BB andLiberace aren't safe, that is my point. TV makes the unsafe choices now, flicks make the safe ones. It wasn't always like this.

No, sometimes TV makes the safe choices and sometimes not. Sometimes movies make the unsafe choices and some times not. The mediums are way too broad and with too many titles to label them all one way.

AMC and HBO are rather big and popular. AMC's Waking Dead broke records of audience last season. It is not marginal.

There really isn't as much disagreement as you guys are making it out to be. Major networks (and that's NBC, CBS, ABC, and FOX) play it safe for the most part, while smaller networks take risks. Makes sense. If you have a large established audience, you avoid risks in order to keep it. If you have a smaller audience, you take risks in order to attract and maintain attention.

HBO and AMC represent particularly successful risk-takers. Of course, they have a lot staked on one or two ventures at any given time, going all-in to command that Sunday night prime-time slot.

It's pretty standard survival-of-the-fittest stuff. See the same thing in the fast-food industry. MacDonalds keeps their menu very stable, while their competitors are throwing all kinds of crazy crap alongside their burgers in an effort to gain any kind of leg-up they can. I predict that at some point will just start selling garbage bags full of chili, tater tots, buffalo wings, bacon, and pizza rolls, and then just drizzle about a gallon of cheese all over it.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I watched the movie today and I consider it to be really amazing.

I am surprised it got a PG-13 rating, because the scene where Murphy's "real" body is revealed is... shocking, in a way I haven't seen or be able to empathize ever before.

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There are many themes and parts of the story I liked - like Gary Oldman's scientist digging himself into the situation and escalating his methods against his original principles ever further.
It's fascinating because he is both manipulative without simply cruel, uncaring or purely egoistic, and he is manipulated in turn to go as far as he does.

The way he "fixes" the problem of Murphy's hestitation compared to the machine is well done - the illusion of free will he gives Murphy is, after all, hits so close to what research in the area suggests, and is of course a fascinating topic to explore.
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Oh, and I want to see more Jackie Earle Haley.

 

[Hand of Evil]

I will see it but the "I, Robot" jumping show in the trailer is rubbing me the wrong way.

 

[calronmoonflower]

And I really hate that they left him with a human hand. Of all the body parts to leave human, why the hand?

Probably because they didn't have someone tell the doctors to lose the hand this time around.

Lol, in the new Robocop overwrites his programming with emotions. Just that is so lame it make me want to puke.

Happened the last time around as well, or did you not notice him assaulting and nearly killing an unarmed man in violation of his programing.

 

[Homicidal_Squirrel]

Probably because they didn't have someone tell the doctors to lose the hand this time around.

Damn, I was hoping he was going to do some undercover prostitution work.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Damn, I was hoping he was going to do some undercover prostitution work.

1. Robocop is always under cover. And you don't want to see him without his covers.

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(But you will, if you see the movie.)

2. He is married, he'd probably have moral issues with it, and this is not something the AI installed in his robocop suite is prepared to handle. Of course, one has to wonder what kind of sex life he and his wife will have. Some might argue that could be the least of their problems, but I'd argue it might actually be a big problem for any relationship. At least he still has

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a face and the hand.

 

[Kramodlog]

1. Robocop is always under cover. And you don't want to see him without his covers.

Spoiler

(But you will, if you see the movie.)

I saw pics. Nothing special.