Ong-bak

Frukathka said:
Yes, but you've reduced it to such a simplistic model, that it doesn't describe Mortal Kombat any better than it describes Aragorn in Lord of the Rings (movie version), or any number of generic reluctant heroes from literally hundreds of stories.

Besides, that character isn't the main character, or the martial artist, although as trancejeremy says, arguably the movie is more about him; certainly he goes through the most growth as a character.
 

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Humlae, the character I meant (the guy with blonde hair) was supposed to have been ordained a priest and went to the city to study. However, he instead became a petty criminal, really a grifter, but not a very good one. He needs money, so he tries to sell this necklace/amulet that he was supposed to inherit from his father to a thug (who works for a black market antiquities dealer/smuggler), but while his father shows it to the thug, he doesn't actually sell it. So the thug ends up stealing the head of the local Buddha statue, Ong Bak. His boss takes it, but is not terribly happy.

Ting (Tony Jaa's character) is sent to the city to recover the head, being the village badass. They give him all their money they have (which isn't much) for the journey. So Ting gets to town and looks up Humlae to try to help (Humlae's father still thinks he plans on being a priest, and so is "good"). Humlae rebuffs Ting at first , but when he learns Ting has money, he befriends him in order to steal it. Which he does.

The rest of the movie, albeit with a lot of fights and chases, basically follows Humlae's path. Ting, the character, doesn't really do much but fight.

Major spoiler:

Anyway, at the very last scene, Humlae gives up himself to save Ong Bak from being smashed to pieces. Moments later, a giant Buddha head rolls off the platform and squishes the main bad guy

(In the final scene, which I think was tacked on, we see Humlae alive and riding an elephant, presumably having become a priest. I think he might have died in the original cut, or at least it was left ambiguous)

But the way the camera focuses on the Buddha's smile in the 2nd to last scene, makes me wonder if he didn't engineer the whole thing in the first place. As a way to get Humlae to redeem himself.

The whole redemption bit is not particularly new. Heck, it's in Star Wars. But I thought it was well done in this case and so I enjoyed the story just as much as I did the action.
 


I'll be happy to do so once you confirm that the fights are dramatically better in the rest of the movie than they were in the scene I mentioned.
 

My biggest problem with the movie (and I'm not trying to be malicious here) is that Tony Jaa makes Jet Lee look like Mr. Personality and has the voice of a 9 year-old girl. He's an amazing athlete, but the next great action star? Meh.

I was wowed by many of the stunts and acrobatics more than by the fights themselves, which look good, but aren't terribly convincing... The day a guy who looks like he weighs maybe 100lb soaking wet beats an experienced fighter literally twice his size using a combat style relying entirely on striking is going to be a cold day in hell...
 

mmu1 said:
I was wowed by many of the stunts and acrobatics more than by the fights themselves, which look good, but aren't terribly convincing... The day a guy who looks like he weighs maybe 100lb soaking wet beats an experienced fighter literally twice his size using a combat style relying entirely on striking is going to be a cold day in hell...

Do all action movies have to be realistic for you to enjoy them? :confused:
 


takyris said:
I'll be happy to do so once you confirm that the fights are dramatically better in the rest of the movie than they were in the scene I mentioned.
taky, read my thread (linked in my post above). Have faith in my taste. We have the same opinion on Van Helsing, I swear to you you will be happy you watched Ong Bak.

I give you my word on this. Watch it.

It is NOT the greatest fight film of all time. Tony Jaa has not yet proved himself in the same calibre as Jackie Chan or Jet Li. But if you like Young Master or Born To Defence, you're going to get the same charge out of Ong Bak. Jaa throws down in this film, and there's reason to hope that this kid is going to be the next big kung-fu star.

But watch it. I cannot believe you will be sorry you watched it.
 

mmu1 said:
Tony Jaa makes Jet Lee look like Mr. Personality
Time will tell if Jaa has the chops to make it as a movie star. He's certainly got the moves and the will. But to say he lacks the megawatt charisma of Jet Li is like saying he lacks the prettiness of Ekin Cheung; true enough, but hardly anyone doesn't.
 

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