OOC Discussion for A Kingdom of Ashes (The Battle of the Alder's Forest, and Beyond)

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

In characters, Justice could be persuaded that leaving the battle in order to bring L'Aurel back is contrary to the very nature of The Circle.

Yes, we took an oath to each other-- but the oath had a purpose-- we have a purpose: to defeat the evil that is enguling the world as we know it. I could be wrong but, I had assumed the oath's entire purpose was to increase and perfect our powers as a group and as individuals in order to *use* those powers to slay the evil army.

However, that is not Justice's current line of thought. She is set on getting L'Aurel to the magic she wanted.

 

[Archon]

DnD, IC PCs in the D.C.

i don't have a link to the IC thread (all my subscriptions were eaten). but there needs to be a little chat. i'll try and catch some of you guys online to talk IC for a second but it shouldn't take very long. and i think we can get deeper IC online then when we essentialy have to improv at the apt.
anyway, those are my thoughts not yours.
mik aka "The Rare Spotted Nichols"

 

[AIM-54]

I'm not sure how what happened on the IC thread solved anything. I think it would confuse the lot of us, but the major dilemma remains: mainly, how long can we wait on getting Laurel out?

In game-wise, I think that while the battle looks to be turning to our favor, it's also a new development and one that, as far as we know, may be temporary. Thus some of us want to stick around to see it through to a point where victory is more assured. This doesn't necessarily mean a whole four hours. But I think it's important we stick around for at least another hour to ensure recent gains are not immediately lost.

 

[Xath]

http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86294&page=1&pp=20

That's the IC Discussion thread.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Ressurection, so far as we know, has only happened once: The Woodshadow...

And, we have very little knowledge about what happened there. We know that it happened-- aside from that, there is nothing we can base our assumptions on.

It will be hard to convice Justice that we should even wait the 4 hours... at this point, she's ready to grab the boots from Xath, throw L'Aurel's body on Thane, and fly to the portal stone.

 

[Laurel]

I always assume I could be wrong and that nothing is written in stone

I'm not sure how what happened on the IC thread solved anything. I think it would confuse the lot of us, but the major dilemma remains: mainly, how long can we wait on getting Laurel out?

I think that is the main issue no one knows.... Dorn may know something, but otherwise it is just a chance.
Xath was brought back within minutes of her demise, and that was a struggle of power and will and all sorts of other fun stuff- so you can assume the longer you wait the harder it will be- that means every second that passes makes it more difficult.

so you can::
a) fight and kill a dear friend of L'Aurel's getting the body now, run from the battle, and still only possibly be able to bring her back

b) let the eagle worry about her body for now, focus the emotion (sadness, rage, hurt, whatever) into the beasts that killed L'Aurel and are still killing people you all have come to know and some to care deeply about. Once the tide is assured, everyone can go to Jaine (or even go to Jaine now for advice/orders). Then you are not tucking tail and running or going missing.
You maybe worse off to get L'Aurel back and it may even have to use stranger magics, but it would be better for convincing the spell casters to use this magic if you have all your strengths (histories, stories, prestige) and charisma's together.

c) have one person with high cha. go with the body & eagle to start negotiations, the remaining people use boots of teleport once the battle is decided one way or the other.

Yes, there are other options but these are I think the big ones.....

 

[Laurel]

Ressurection, so far as we know, has only happened once: The Woodshadow...
And, we have very little knowledge about what happened there. We know that it happened-- aside from that, there is nothing we can base our assumptions on.
It will be hard to convice Justice that we should even wait the 4 hours... at this point, she's ready to grab the boots from Xath, throw L'Aurel's body on Thane, and fly to the portal stone.

Actually, keep forgetting this, but we did see it first had -Arfin wished for the Duke to be ressurected. But that happened after some time and he seems fine... how long?

 

[AIM-54]

Ressurection, so far as we know, has only happened once: The Woodshadow...

And, we have very little knowledge about what happened there. We know that it happened-- aside from that, there is nothing we can base our assumptions on.

It will be hard to convice Justice that we should even wait the 4 hours... at this point, she's ready to grab the boots from Xath, throw L'Aurel's body on Thane, and fly to the portal stone.

I believe I offered a reasonable compromise between our duty to the town and our oath to our fallen comrade, weighted somewhat to the latter. My reasoning is pretty clear above, but I think, under the circumstances and considering the situation that waiting four hours might be risky for the chance of successful resurrection, while leaving now might be risky for the outcome of the battle. Having made that judgment and weighed the risks, I think our best option would be to ensure recent momentum continues before flying off to Caer Melyn. Namely, make sure the next hour goes well and then leave it to the locals and their leadership.

 

[The_Universe]

The Duke was down about 2-4 hours, iirc, and there is a substantial difference between a Wish and a resurrection spell. What that difference is--only experience can tell you.

 

[The_Universe]

I believe I offered a reasonable compromise between our duty to the town and our oath to our fallen comrade, weighted somewhat to the latter. My reasoning is pretty clear above, but I think, under the circumstances and considering the situation that waiting four hours might be risky for the chance of successful resurrection, while leaving now might be risky for the outcome of the battle. Having made that judgment and weighed the risks, I think our best option would be to ensure recent momentum continues before flying off to Caer Maelynn (sp?). Namely, make sure the next hour goes well and then leave it to the locals and their leadership.

I think her difficulty is not OOC, just in IC. I think if someone reminds Justice that it will be faster to let Xath rest and gather her "strength" (ie level) and have everyone teleport than start to fly their, now, she'll relent.

Let's try to have IC discussions on the IC thread, and then keep ourselves free to be frank and honest between *players* on this thread. That should minimize confusion as much as is possible.

As for the compromise--you're pretty much stuck waiting at least 4 hours, so do what you want with that time. By which I mean--I agree with jeremiah. Do what your character would do for 4 hours, and then get a move on, assuming you still can.