OOC discussion: Heroes of the House Tharashk! (Full)

[Jarval]

Jarval,
I agree that arcane spell failure is not a problem for an Artificer.

Great

Two problems I noted with your character though are:

1) It looks to me like you accidentally spent 34 points on your stats. Please double check.

It might be that you didn't take the Warforged racial ability modifiers into account. They get +2 Strength, -2 Wisdom, -2 Charisma. I've included point costs for my character's ability scores below:

STR 16 (+3) (6 points, +2 racial bonus)
DEX 12 (+1) (4 points)
CON 12 (+1) (4 points)
INT 14 (+2) (6 points)
WIS 8 (-1) (2 points, -2 racial penalty)
CHA 14 (+2) (10 points, -2 racial penalty)

Total: 6 + 4 + 4 + 6 + 2 + 10 = 32.

2) Artificers have medium armor proficiency, Adamantine body is treated as if you are wearing heavy armor. This would mean that until 3rd level (or whenever you choose to take heavy armor proficiency) your armor check penalty of -5 will count against your attack rolls and all skill checks that involve moving. I'm just checking to make sure you're aware of this. Taking Mithral body instead would eliminate this problem, as would taking a level of any class that gives heavy armor proficiency.

That's what I thought at first, but Keith Baker (Hellcow on both EN World and the WotC boards) has a different take on this. If you look closely at the description on the warforged's Adamantine Body or Mithral Body, neither say you have and Armour Check Penalty, but rather that you take a penalty to skills to which an Armour Check Penalty applies. In either case, Keith has ruled that you're always considered proficient with your own body.

This thread has Keith's ruling on this matter (it's the fourth or fifth post down).

 

[Hoog]

cd what are you doing at home now

 

[cdsaint]

Great



It might be that you didn't take the Warforged racial ability modifiers into account. They get +2 Strength, -2 Wisdom, -2 Charisma. I've included point costs for my character's ability scores below:

STR 16 (+3) (6 points, +2 racial bonus)
DEX 12 (+1) (4 points)
CON 12 (+1) (4 points)
INT 14 (+2) (6 points)
WIS 8 (-1) (2 points, -2 racial penalty)
CHA 14 (+2) (10 points, -2 racial penalty)

Total: 6 + 4 + 4 + 6 + 2 + 10 = 32.



That's what I thought at first, but Keith Baker (Hellcow on both EN World and the WotC boards) has a different take on this. If you look closely at the description on the warforged's Adamantine Body or Mithral Body, neither say you have and Armour Check Penalty, but rather that you take a penalty to skills to which an Armour Check Penalty applies. In either case, Keith has ruled that you're always considered proficient with your own body.

This thread has Keith's ruling on this matter (it's the fourth or fifth post down).

Jarval, I looked all over for info on the Adamantine body feat and proficiency, but couldn't find it anywhere. Problem solved, I think I can accept Hellcow's word on it.

As far as the point buy, I know where the problem is now. Warforged get a +2 to con, not str. that would account for the 2 extra pionts.

Chris

 

[Jarval]

Jarval, I looked all over for info on the Adamantine body feat and proficiency, but couldn't find it anywhere. Problem solved, I think I can accept Hellcow's word on it.

I took some searching for me too. I'm hoping it'll be included in the Eberron FAQ, when they get around to producing one.

As far as the point buy, I know where the problem is now. Warforged get a +2 to con, not str. that would account for the 2 extra pionts.

Huh, so they do... Don't know how I made that slip. I'll fix it when I post the full version of my character. Well spotted

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

If there's still room I'd be interested.

 

[cdsaint]

Sorry, We're full

Sorry to all who didn't make it in time. I have all the players I need right now.

Thanks, Chris

 

[Old Fezziwig]

I've finished Cazanjan (equipment, spell lists, fixed skills). Let me know if he's good to go and I'll post him in the RG thread.

Nick

 

[cdsaint]

Looks good Kajamba, post him.

For everyone, one thing I forgot to mention is that you'll be starting in Zarash'ak in the Shadow Marches. Boats will be the main mode of transportation, horses and other livestock will be a major inconvenience. If you bought a horse, you might want to re-consider.

Chris

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Okay, if there's an alternate spot open, I'd love it, otherwise I guess I move on.

 

[Old Fezziwig]

I've posted him.

Nick