(OOC) Fitz's Folly (ToA PBP)

[FitzTheRuke]

Should I give a rundown on Valindra, or will she come back later? LOL Well, I suppose Angis might fill people in during the trek.

Sure, go ahead.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

So I still need rolls for everyone but Dellrak. Two Skills. Travelling. Whatever you like, but keep in mind that someone really ought to navigate. Try to cover bases, is what I'm saying. Don't give me 16 perception checks. Roll for NPCs too!

 

[Neurotic]

What is navigation check? Survival?

 

[gargoyleking]

Yep

 

[FitzTheRuke]

What is navigation check? Survival?

Yes generally. Also "Navigator' Tools" if anyone has them and is proficient.I don't feel that navigator's tools are just a sextant or whatever but also spyglass, maps, compass (where those exist) and mostly math. Anything you can carry that helps you know where you are.

I guess since Xanathar's guide, that would still be a survival check but with advantage if you have the tools.

5e skills are a little unclear because they wanted a skill system that could easily be dropped for old-school skill-less play, but in practice nearly no one does that. So instead we wound up with a bit of a half-baked system. One of 5e's few flaws, IMO.

 

[Neurotic]

I believe you use an atribute , but apply proficiency if you have the tools...

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I believe you use an atribute , but apply proficiency if you have the tools...

Yes, but that confused a lot of people because nearly all (though not all) tasks have a skill defined with them, and sometimes you have both a skill, AND a tool, that would be appropriate. (The most obvious example being Performance, and Musical Instruments). Xanathar's Guide suggested that when THAT happens, you can roll the Skill with Advantage.

I'd say Navigator's Tools would do that with Survival, if you have both.

It's terribly inconsistent, which is my main problem with the skill system. The system works "good enough" but I don't think it would be very hard to come up with a better one.

Of course, this is all moot if no one in the party has Navigator's Tools, and proficiency in them. Qawasha's gear is not mentioned anywhere (like most NPC monster stat-blocks, he's expected to have 'whatever makes sense') I think it's pretty possible that he does have whatever a Chultan would use to navigate a jungle, and it's pretty well established that the Sticks have a map*, though we'll be moving off of it very soon.

* At least, I can't imagine that you wouldn't have gotten a copy of Tarri's map when you escorted her to make it.

At any rate, I would not object if it were argued that Qawasha can roll his navigator's survival checks with advantage (from whatever tools he uses).

 

[Ancalagon]

I will give you some checks later today, out and about at the moment.

 

[Ancalagon]

Wait, Qawasha doesn't have survival as a skill? Is this right?

 

[gargoyleking]

Harb settles back into his traditional scouting roll. Much better at hiding than in seeing though. Oye.

Stealth: 1d20+5 24
Perception: 1d20+4 8