[OOC] House Millithor in City of the Spider Queen

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Wouldn't Ki'willis feel the difference between a Mind Probe and a Domination? She relinquished her save for one but not the other. Could Klaxeon manifest a Domination without tell-tale displays? How could I have been this stupid?
 
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So, our score this far:

1 Dominated Matron Mother. Check.

1 Probably Dominated House Patron. Check.

1 Nutcase House Wizard (whose anger is at least directed towards senseful direction). Check.

1 Coin of ûber-doom in the hands of an Illithid, who can plane-jump at will. Check.



Umm... would others bother to beat Klaxeon to a bloody pulp? :mad:

Well, whatever happens, both Matron and Quertus are going to end up very, very humiliated.
 
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Domination is not as powerful an effect as you might think. Ki'Willis will get another saving throw if Klaxeon asks her to do anything against her nature. If she is asked to do anything self-destructive, she automatically passes the new saving throw. Ki'Willis already knew that Quertus might be under the control of the coin and might have to be restrained until the curse could be removed. Ki'Willis was already thinking about giving Klaxeon the coin in exchange for the Cephalometer.

Conclusion, Klaxeon has not yet violated Ki'Willis's nature, although he is taking things rather than trading for them.

Comment #2: Can Ki'Willis feel the difference between a mind probe and a domination. Definitely not for magic resistance purposes. For the will save, the two effects are so close that Ki'Willis can't tell the difference.

Comment #3: Yes, Klaxeon has all of the appropriate feats to avoid psychic displays.

Comment #4: Klaxeon has a +27 bluff check and he has a psychic power called conceal thoughts that adds another +20 to his bluff check as a competence bonus and nullifies "detect lies" and similar spells. And he has some other mental stuff. So you are talking about someone with a +47 (or more) bonus to his bluff check. Klaxeon has fooled lots of people before now.

Actually, it seems much worse than it really is.

1) Klaxeon's henchmen is dying.
2) You were thinking about trading the coin for the cephalometer anyways, and the cephalomoter is on the ground next to the dying mindflayer
3) You didn't let the bugbear be dominated, which means that Kilcif is not an enemy right now (Klaxeon's original plan was to dominate Kilcif and feeblemind Krecil).
4) Klaxeon has revealed to you that he plans to plane shift on the next round. And you'll be free of mental control once he is no longer on the plane.
5) And if Klaxeon is lying and he doesn't plane shift, I'm going to give Ki'Willis another saving throw because submission is innately against her nature (as your post in the playing thread made clear). Krecil does not get another saving throw, since he is used to being bossed around.

Serpenteye said:
Wouldn't Ki'willis feel the difference between a Mind Probe and a Domination? She relinquished her save for one but not the other. Could Klaxeon manifest a Domination without tell-tale displays? How could I have been this stupid?
 
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The future

After this misunderstanding with the Mind Flayers is
resolved, the party must look to the future.

One possibility is to go directly to the headquarters
of L’Tarranen del Egluth.

Another possibility is to do some shopping first.

The advantage of a shopping trip is that you will have
more toys. The disadvantage of shopping is that you
won’t have as much money for bribes, etc. and there is
the possibility of another unpleasant encounter.

If you decide to go to Waterdeep or Skullport for your
shopping trip, and if Quertus memorizes one shadow
walk to get there and another shadow walk to leave a
few hours after you arrive, and if you restrict
yourself to only buying DMG items that have a caster
level of 10 or less, I’m going to rule that you can do
that without risking an unpleasant encounter.

If you try and go somewhere else, I’ll have to
determine what they have available and what the risk
level is for visiting there. If you stay longer than
several hours, want items that aren’t standard DMG
items (i.e. custom made) or have a caster level of
higher than 10, there is some risk of being discovered
by unpleasant individuals.

In order to speed up the shopping trip (and to speed
up game play), I recommend making up a shopping list
now.
 

I definitely want to go shopping. I need some things that will increase my spell casting abilities. However, I will understand if we decide it's too dangerous or it's not worth the money. Unfortunately, I don't have anything in particular in mind (except some Pearls of lower levels), and I don't have a DMG, so I'll probably just have to list some things that I'd like and you all can tell me if they exist, and if so, if they're workable.
 

I’m all for shopping. :)

I'm surprised one of the drow didn't pick up that she called him via his position and not name... Kilcif probably hasn't been around long enough to realize that the matron almost always address people by their name....
 


You can try and buy pearls of power, but they have a level 17 caster level, so they are items that will have increase the risk of an unpleasant encounter.

Seonaid said:
Unfortunately, I don't have anything in particular in mind (except some Pearls of lower levels),.
 

Shopping list?

Scrolls. Lots of Scrolls. :D
Maybe an Adamantine Longsword (preferably elf bane and/or spell storing, but plain nonmagical is fine too) for "self-defence".
Spell components.

Frankly, I have no idea how the loot is to be distributed, or will Quertus actually get to do shopping. If the platinium is divided evenly, it's 40 000 to everyone. But for some reason, I highly doubt it will.
 


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