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OOC: House Millithor in COSQ part 3

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Endur said:
I'm not sure if Carcelon or the Matron have any rebukes left now. One or both of them are out of rebukes.
If my memory serves me correctly* I believe the only rebuke/turning was done against the Grim Reaper on the shadow path but I do not remember who did it. I would guess it was Carcelon though.

* I’m lucky if I can remember what day it is… :)
 

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The Matron rebuked the Grim Reaper.

There was also various rebukes done against Skeletons in the Dodrien Crypts.

There were also some rebukes used against vampires and quth-maren when Kilcif went for a swim.
 

Next time we're crawling through something like we just did, I'm gonna summon something (Probably wolf, maybe Dire Rat) a little into the room when possible, hopefully causing a bit of distraction.
 

I think the Matron has used 2 rebukes before now. Once against the reaper and once in the fight at the entrance to the noble level. Kripp was the only one who rebuked the skeletons in the crypts.

Btw, Leonon and Kiernan do not fight like a CR 10. Their true CR is much closer to their ECL (16). They couldn't be played more effectively as player characters. It seems to be the case in general, when one has an intelligent and ruthless DM, that CR should equal ECL (or vice versa).
 

How often do you get the chance to see a pair of vampires fully utilize their combat reflexes feat by taking ALL of their AOO's in one round?

I'll keep your comments in mind. Look on the bright side, the party level is also somewhere around 16.

And, I havn't used all of their abilities yet. They havn't started doing whirlwind attacks on your characters, or summoning the Children of the Night.

Serpenteye said:
Btw, Leonon and Kiernan do not fight like a CR 10. Their true CR is much closer to their ECL (16). They couldn't be played more effectively as player characters. It seems to be the case in general, when one has an intelligent and ruthless DM, that CR should equal ECL (or vice versa).
 
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Endur said:
I'm not sure if Carcelon or the Matron have any rebukes left now. One or both of them are out of rebukes.

Given that they don't come back, Carcelon has only used one rebuke so far (when she was grappled while Kilcif was swimming). She should still have one left
 

That sounds right for Carcelon having one left and the Matron having at least one left.

Tierak still has four of her command/rebukes left from the Spider Domain.
 
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Kripp washed the vampiric driders away. But you might run into some Driders in Maerimydra. :)

Paxus Asclepius said:
That's something, at any rate. Now if I can just get them to turn into driders . . .
 

Mmh, the reason that ECL is higher than CR, is because when fighting creatures, the combat usually ends sooner or later, and creatures have had some time to use their abilities before they died.

Say a creature has an ability to cast fireball at will. In combat with a normal party, the wizard of the party would be able to toss around several fireballs as well, and the creature would be able to cast, say, 3 fireballs before it dies. That doesn't make him more dangerous than a wizard that's able to cast 3 fireballs per day.

However, ending up in the hands of a PC, fireball at will is a very powerfull ability, being able to toss it over and over again, making it's ECL a lot higher than it's CR.

Just an example...
 

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