OOC Kingdom of Ashes V - Brood city, baby!

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Also remember: God told us that Jaine was going to die.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

By Jaine marrying AB, the Bluestar get control over Jaine. If Jaine falls in love with AB (very likely) and he for her, the bluestar has a huge barganing chip with the rulers of our kingdom. AB still under oath and all, his children inherit as well, ol' blue will know this. Of what we could offer him this is the most extreme and the best from his vantage.

By offering joint custody of one child- no he doesn't get the greatest, but it also clearly states what the joint custody is. Both sides get something here..... It is an intermetiate before offering our queen (and thus country) tied and bound to him.

Yes she may be offering herself up for country and all, but as she is queen and ruler what she binds herself to she binds the rulership, heirs, and future of the kingdom to as well.

With all these dealing we should not just throw the most extreme deal on the table... we are barganing. Just like we get 60% of cost for rings, the purchaser doesn't start by saying they will pay full price and the seller doesn't start by agreeing to the first bid the purchaser offers.

We're not simply throwing the most extreme deal on the table. If we can get away with it, I would have him not get a child or Jaine... he can get some land, freedom, and Tains ultimate demise... as well as a kingdom that isn't so hostile toward him.

And, in these dealings, we have to think about what he will actually want. He has living heirs... if he wants to rear a child, he can get a child... and one that is of his bloodline. So, it seems to offer him one of the children outright (which, is a pretty extreme thing in and of itself beings that the childs *real* father is going to be present when the offering occurs) seems to be giving him something that he already has one of and could have more of if he desired.

So, we can certainly use it as a chip with which to negotiate... but, I just don't think he'll be very keen.

 

[The_Universe]

The lines are already tied. There are already two children.

Yes there are, but neither are tied to the Bluestar in as strong a way as AB. Even if AB and Jaine were to marry, the twins are AA's, not AB's (even if we want the peasantry to believe that that is not the case). Thus, if AB's oath applies to his children, the twins are exempt, since they are not his children.

However, if Jaine miraculously survives the birth (definitely unlikely - Commune said she was a goner) any future children could be tied up in the oath thing, if it even reaches that far, which you do not know.

I hope that clarifies things, a bit!

DNA isn't as important as marriage is in a world like this, though... you have to keep that in mind. A formal marriage ties the lines more than simply two children ever could.

That's essentially the crux of it. Although The Bluestar may lay some claim to the children of Archonus Arendorr, the claim is certain to be a weak one. Archonus Bluestar's children may be a different story altogether. And, politically, the various claims to each others' thrones are marriage-dependent, not booty-dependent.

By offering joint custody of one child- no he doesn't get the greatest, but it also clearly states what the joint custody is. Both sides get something here..... It is an intermetiate before offering our queen (and thus country) tied and bound to him.

Just remember that AB is probably not much more bound than AA, in terms of severity. So, AB probably has as much leeway as AA does in his Oath to Jaine. As a result, he can be trusted not to betray the Bluestar's interest, but as experience has taught, he can still do a lot of stuff that he may not like. While there's no denying that having AB in the life of the Queen's children will result in the Bluestar having some influence on them, it's not tantamount to handing them to him on a silver platter.

 

[The_Universe]

Also remember: God told us that Jaine was going to die.

Yep -she's toast. She might be able to be "risen" after it's all over, but that's about it.

 

[The_Universe]

On a completely unrelated note, I gave Dungeon my first draft submission for an article, last night. Wish me luck!

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Yep -she's toast. She might be able to be "risen" after it's all over, but that's about it.

We need to find out if Jaine would actually come back if she did die...

Sheesh, how did we forget to ask *that*?!

... can we still ask in the, now dead, Gmail convo?

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

On a completely unrelated note, I gave Dungeon my first draft submission for an article, last night. Wish me luck!

YAY FOR KENNON!

 

[The_Universe]

We need to find out if Jaine would actually come back if she did die...

Sheesh, how did we forget to ask *that*?!

... can we still ask in the, now dead, Gmail convo?

She says you should try. She may decide not to come back at that moment, but right now, she thinks she'd give it a whirl.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

She says you should try. She may decide not to come back at that moment, but right now, she thinks she'd give it a whirl.

Cool beans.

I'm sure everyone on the group is ready for hot girl-on-girl action!!

Huzzah for "Hot Lesbian French Kiss of Life" spell!!

 

[The_Universe]

Cool beans.

I'm sure everyone on the group is ready for hot girl-on-girl action!!

Huzzah for "Hot Lesbian French Kiss of Life" spell!!

I think my feelings for this comment can only be described with an acronym: ROFL.

You up for this, Xath?