OOC Kingdom of Ashes VI (Welcome to the Springer Dimension)

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Did he/you roll his undeath? Or since he was gone what part of six seconds it doesn't count?

Kennon said it was too quick to make him roll the undeath... which I would take to mean he still has his oath.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Kennon said it was too quick to make him roll the undeath... which I would take to mean he still has his oath.

But, I guess, I could be wrong... seems like a pretty wussy way out of a really powerful oath though...

 

[The_Universe]

Just a thought:

Shouldn't that check be the responsibility of the Nobles Council?

Do we have like a House of Commons?

If not, we could establish one... Nobles Council as the upper house, House of Commons as the lower... can check the king or queen through these organizations - not the Talons...

There is no house of commons. Commons bring their concerns to their nobles, who then bring them to the Council. (or at least that's how it's supposed to work). Since the sovereign's first duty is to his or her people, he or she has oversight over the nobles, to make sure that no people unduly suffer under one of the vassal's care. Such gross negligence has rarely been a problem in the Falcon Kingdom, however, and when it has reared its ugly head, the Throne has usually been quick to deal with them.

Events like this are why the military is no longer under the control of individual nobles, but rather a province of the throne with oversight from the Council's ministers. Rebellions by greedy lords and ladies had to be stopped, and the only way to do so effectively was to consolidate official military power under the throne.

Of course, this practice gave rise to a relatively large mercenary economy (as you now know) and sidelined the Talons, who became less used as the King could more reliably order about the Army and Navy. Thus, the talons became smaller, and more specialized...and ultimately an elite extension of the Sovereign's will.

 

[The_Universe]

at work all that is disabled. I can't edit with the tool bar at all.

Well, everyone can see it in my reply, so please comment on Kat's post.

 

[The_Universe]

But, I guess, I could be wrong... seems like a pretty wussy way out of a really powerful oath though...

Thought about it. Archon's still bound.

 

[Laurel]

Thought about it. Archon's still bound.

Does it apply to both oaths or only the one to Jaine?

 

[Archon]

till all are one!

How about instead of calling them The Phoenix Shield, we grant Knighthood to the bodyguards after they swear the Oath.
"The Knights of the Phoenix"
i kinda like the sound of that.

 

[Laurel]

How about instead of calling them The Phoenix Shield, we grant Knighthood to the bodyguards after they swear the Oath.
"The Knights of the Phoenix"
i kinda like the sound of that.

That works- I was just pasting a name so we didn't get confused calling everythign the same thing or one and two "The Knights of the Phoenix" sounds cooler though so you got my vote there.

It would also force the council to think more about who they pick since this would be elivating someone into the higher ranks- I may be wrong but I thought the lowest rank for the nobels is knight?

Can we give them the metal pattern that Liz posted for thier dress uniforms? Knights with distinct armor seperating them I understand that it makes no sense for movement and such to have all protecting the queen be noisy and less dexterous, but for those immediately surrounding the ruler showboating needs All others can be in whatever.

 

[The_Universe]

Does it apply to both oaths or only the one to Jaine?

Both.

 

[The_Universe]

That works- I was just pasting a name so we didn't get confused calling everythign the same thing or one and two "The Knights of the Phoenix" sounds cooler though so you got my vote there.

Agreed. This is the perfect thing to have an order of knights for. This is the best naming suggestion so far (for the bodyguards, anyway).

It would also force the council to think more about who they pick since this would be elivating someone into the higher ranks- I may be wrong but I thought the lowest rank for the nobels is knight?

The lowest noble rank is Knight, but the title is not usually hereditary - so, while it's possible that a knight could be elevated further, this will still prevent a ridiculous inflation of the number of noble families running about, since the knights children (if he has any) will not inherit his title.

Can we give them the metal pattern that Liz posted for thier dress uniforms? Knights with distinct armor seperating them I understand that it makes no sense for movement and such to have all protecting the queen be noisy and less dexterous, but for those immediately surrounding the ruler showboating needs All others can be in whatever.

Some of the guards can have patterned chain shirts/mail.