Jürgen Hubert
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My prediction: The dragon flies off to make good on his threat, and V makes a rather desperate deal with the imp to gain the power necessary to stop him in time...
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diaglo
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dmccoy1693
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Plot-screwing PCs because the did their job and killed a monster.Whoop-de-doo.
I don't see V as a PC anymore, nor have I seen shim as a PC ever since the destruction of Azure City. Shim's done nothing but keep to it's self, research spells, avoid every combat, and just be annoying. To me that sounds more like a DM controlling a former PC simply for story continuity and turning shim to a major villian.
Oh and yea I'm firmly in the V has kids at this point in time. The look of terror on it's face is only one a parent has. If you don't have kids, that kind of terror doesn't grip you.
And seeking revenge for V's dead children is a perfect reason to accept whatever offer the imp puts forward. Dead children would make V not care about shim's "damnation".
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dmccoy1693
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No. Saving someone is an excellent reason. Revenge qualifies for "all the wrong reasons."
Jürgen Hubert
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He already said the four words. Anything that now is a consequence of those words. If he had not said those words, he would still have been with the split party, and not stuck on a small island, and the dragon wouldn't have contacted him.
dmccoy1693
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I'm assuming you're referring to something V said in #599. IF so, please tell me which words you believe are the "right 4 words".
Remus Lupin
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"Disintegrate." "Gust of Wind."
Holy Smokes
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Not intending to dogpile here, because I know lots others have commented on this, but I wanted to turn the perspective around a little. Isn't this the very definition of a Rat-Bastard DM move?Plot-screwing PCs because the did their job and killed a monster.
The slain dragon was the boss of an optional side-quest, killed so that the fighter could restore/upgrade his sword. This is the kind of stuff RBDMs routinely use to hang players; it's like a reflex reaction. The key to RBDM'ing is choice. Choices have consequences, so you always offer the players choices, and only later do you serve up a cold cup of WTF to let results sink in.
So storytelling and dramatics aside, I totally get where you're coming from, but you gotta ask yourself (or at least, I do), What Would Piratecat Do?
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I still firmly believe that the right 4 words will be "I AM A GIRL (or GUY)! but that is just me. And honestly I don't see how you see the prophecy coming here. Revenge on someone who killed your children is not all the wrong reasons. It is not the most moral reason, but most people would debate on whether it even qualifies as evil.
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