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[OT] Are you being tracked online?

I just ran PurgeIE today, and while it worked well for the most part I ended up with a files that were "locked". It couldn't purge them, and I couldn't manually delete them through PurgieIE. I know for a fact that a couple of the them are harmless (pics of character in the upcoming PS2 game D&D: Heroes), but some of the other one don't look they should be there. Has anyone else encountered this? Is there a way to unlock those files?
 

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MeepoTheMighty said:
I installed the pop-up stopper from www.panicware.com, and haven't seen a pop-up in months. On the rare occasion when a site needs to open another window, all it takes is holding down the control key.


Oh, and anyone else who likes to post about how they use Mozilla should read somethingawful.com today. ;)

Hehe - funny stuff. IE still doesn't have tabbed browsing though, and honestly I can't live without it now.
 

kenjib said:


Hehe - funny stuff. IE still doesn't have tabbed browsing though, and honestly I can't live without it now.

True, but it's already built into the OS (sorta). It'll group together all of your similar windows under one taskbar button, so it's basically the same effect. Besides - what do you do on tabbed browsing if you want two windows open at once?
 


Psionicist said:
:)

Best thread ever. Someone (I don't give a rats who) post a link to this site, "f---microsoft.com", about something that's so obviously fake I cannot imagine anyone to actually believe it. Then all of you take this "facts" as granted just because it's about the "evil corporation". Does this site show any actual proof? Any evidence at all except this "mysterious" file? This is spooky. Do you believe everything that newspapers says too? Or spam emails, about the enlarge-your-dookie-pills? Or what f----mcdonalds.com writes? I have only one word for this, or four words:

You guys are naive.

EDIT - no offense, but your point can be made without the overt circumnavigation of the profanity filter, Psionicist.
Henry

Hey, Psionicist, could you please tell me were, for example, my post spoke of the "evil corporation"?

What are you trying to say? There is no spyware software? (then why I routinely remove some hundred pieces of code everytime I pass ad aware in a friends's computer?) There is no hacker wanting to know data about you, specially bankary data? (then why so many people get their cards compromised?) There is no corporation trying to gather info about your tastes to spam you better in the hope you buy more? (of course, spam and publicity mails and browsers ads are only in my deranged mind) No ISP does keep copy of users e-mail? (even if only at random or for investigation issues) No system administrator using-abusing his position to see what kind of sites you browse? (then I must have dream,t it when I worked six month for IBM and was tell that anime sites are not good to visit at work, hey, I was young and innocent, programmer in training...)
 

just wanted to pipe in here with a pseudo rant/stream of consiousness with tons of spelling errors and bad use of punctuation.

ZoneAlarm is an easy piece of firewall software to set up and use. (and not half bad either)

The dat file used to store information should be wiped when a user clicks the 'delete files' within IE, it doesn't and the software doesn't tell you of the files' existance and the failure to delete. This is what makes it wrong. Microsoft should make it blatantly obvious that such a file exists, and give a reason why it doesn't delete it. (by the way I am not a MS basher at all)

To the posters who say 'why bother, only someone who has something to hide should be worried', there are things to be worried about (within the USA that is, your countries' laws may vary). It's your computer, anything that is on it is your responsibility. What is worrisome is the possible misuse or misunderstanding of such data, what if a friend uses your machine with or without your knowledge? What if they viewed 'bad' information, while you are in the bathroom, because they are curious, and then wipe the info using 'delete internet cache' through IE. Sorry, the record is still there, and you are responsible, two years later, a neighbor pissed off at your barking dogs says you looked suspiciously at his young daughter, the police search your residence, find the dat file record, boom off to jail. But you are innocent. The innocent do go to jail. It happens, I have seen it, do you want to lose a couple years of your life (if lucky) due to a 'misunderstanding' of data?

the law in America can be rather harsh and limit the sentencing of people to obscene terms.

To make this brief, I will use two examples of recent court cases (within two weeks). Man goes to visit his uncle, his uncle isn't back from walking the dog yet, and he doesn't have a key, so he waits on the porch. Fed-Ex arrives with a package for the uncle, man signs for package. Fed-ex leaves. Police show up with warrant, (stake-out) they open the box, medium amount of cocaine is inside. Man is arrested for drug trafficing. The package was not really for his uncle, it seems it is sometimes use tactic of drug trafficers to use ups and fed-ex for delivery of 'goods', but have the stuff delivered to houses where the unsespecting owners are not there most of the time, etc... They station a person waiting for delivery and sign for the package... poof, no trace. Anyway, this gentleman, who had no prior convictions, was sentenced 15-life as that is the minimum sentance for someone who is found with that amount of cocaine in their possesion. (the judge in question could have overturned, but judges almost never do (and I do mean never))

second case, florida, 12 yr old was rough-housing with 6-7 ry old cousin, something they do rather often, the young girl dies very much by accident(I believe he sat on her). The state decides to try the 12 yr old as an adult(which is very common now adays) for murder in the first degree, the jury finds him guilty on the key point is that he intentionaly was trying to cause harm, the jury only had to decide that one point, did he intentionaly try to cause harm. (of course, that is what rough-housing is) The boy was just sentanced to life.

Ever hear of parents having their children taken away because of allegations of hitting(a single spanking)? kiddie porn(picture of toddler in bath with shampoo spikey hair)? It happens. I have seen the cases (I work with DYFS on occasion) Usually the parents get the kids back eventually, sometimes weeks, months, or years afterward, sometimes with bills from the state to cover the housing and care of the kids(and in one case the cost of the investigation itself).


My point is basically the system fails sometimes, it isn't perfect, the innocent sometimes go to jail, if they are lucky they are vindicated soon (sometimes years afterward if at all). I for one do not want to be an innocent in jail and lose a single day or have someone take away my kids for a few months, due to a 'misunderstanding'. Innocent until proven guilty. Innocent until proven guilty.


RX
 

MeepoTheMighty said:


True, but it's already built into the OS (sorta). It'll group together all of your similar windows under one taskbar button, so it's basically the same effect. Besides - what do you do on tabbed browsing if you want two windows open at once?

Yeah, you can use the task bar but it's not as quick. You can open multiple windows as well. It works like any other browser in that respect. New keystrokes for tabbed browsing:

Ctrl-click: Open link in tabbed window
Ctrl-W: Close current tab
Ctrl-PgUp: Go to next tab
Ctrl-PgDn: Go to prev tab

Anyway - this is getting too far off topic so I'll stop, but Mozilla also has the first sidebar system that I've actually found useful. I think the UI is great and will probably be copied by IE in a forthcoming update, as well as built in support for pop up suppression. IE is long overdue for an interface upgrade, IMO. I've also found Mozilla to be more stable, and if it does crash it doesn't take down your desktop with it. I think that tabbed browsing was in Opera first though, but making a browser that you have to pay for just isn't a good idea these days so Opera's not for me.
 

Gunslinger said:
I just ran PurgeIE today, and while it worked well for the most part I ended up with a files that were "locked". It couldn't purge them, and I couldn't manually delete them through PurgieIE. I know for a fact that a couple of the them are harmless (pics of character in the upcoming PS2 game D&D: Heroes), but some of the other one don't look they should be there. Has anyone else encountered this? Is there a way to unlock those files?

While I don't have PurgeIE, a "locked" file error generally means that the file is in use by another program. I'd make sure that all instances of IE are closed. If that fails then reboot and run Purge directly afterwards, although some programs may start with the reboot that could still "lock" the file. That's my best advice for the moment....I'll dig a little deeper.
 

RingXero said:
My point is basically the system fails sometimes, it isn't perfect, the innocent sometimes go to jail, if they are lucky they are vindicated soon (sometimes years afterward if at all). I for one do not want to be an innocent in jail and lose a single day or have someone take away my kids for a few months, due to a 'misunderstanding'. Innocent until proven guilty. Innocent until proven guilty. RX

Specific cites, please? These sound more like urban myths than actual court cases, unless you've left a lot of detail out. I suspect this to be more like the famed McDonald's "coffee" case, where everyone thinks they know the details, but they really don't, and make erroneous assumptions about it.

Edit: A quick cite finds that the 12-year old murdering a 6-year old is a more complex case than your quick recap indicates...not the least of which is that his imprisonment is a result of his mother's refusing to accept the offer of 3 years in juvenile detention, for example. The system didn't fail, there. Not to mention that the case is currently on appeal.
 
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Lack of specific cites? well yeah, I know what it looks like.

But I have an interesting situation. I am good friends with DYFS workers(and their equivilants) and quite a few police officers and sherrifs in New Jersey, Florida, Arizona, Nebraska, Kansas, South Dakota, and Delaware areas. I can only report on what they tell me. They don't give me specifics, and I don't ask. The situations of children I mentioned above come from discusstions that boil down to a friend telling me they had to take a kid away from a parent because some moron at a photo lab made an official complaint of 'child pornography' the pictures usually are of kids streaking, or in the tub. My friends know that it isn't an abusive situation, but the LAW in many states now leaves no wiggle room. poof, kid gone for a few days for interviewing. Now god forbid your kid acts 'strange' 'guilty' or 'depressed' this will usually require even longer stays. From what they tell me, this usually happens a few times a year in each state, most of the time the kids are returned after a couple of days, but are sometimes kept longer (and in a couple of cases 2-3 years)

My brother-in-law had a child 5 months ago here in Jersey. The nurse that was there at the same time I was the next day specifically told him NOT to take pictures of the kid naked (just cover the private area with a blanket or something). Now she isn't an authority on the subject at all and may be responding to 'urban legends' but it does fit in with what my friends at DYFS in NJ tell me what can happen.

If I ask friends for specific case numbers and names (especially for something that is as trivial as a board discussion) that would drastically change our relationships, and I am not willing to do that. Sure I know it sounds wishy washy, but all I can say is that these things happen, if you want to find out how many in a given area check with your local DYFS(or equivilant) about the statistics (say your a college student doing a report for school or something)

The case in florida is an example of the system failing. You say the mother didn't want her son to get three years in juv. detention, why should she? In her view that is far too much time to just say 'ok' take my son away for 3 yrs because of an accident'. The child should have never been tried as an adult, and 1st degree murder (with its required sentancing) should never have been considered. It was an accident, and should have never of gotten this far. (sure it's on appeal, why wouldn't it be?) (even if the older child systematically bullied the younger, adult sentancing, murder 1 is ridiculous)

My point is that the laws in this regard, and in many others leave NO CHOICE for officials, the 'grey area' has all but dissappeared. Judges almost never use their power for 'wiggle' room in many of these cases mostly out of fear of the 1% chance that they may be wrong, the resulting damage to their career and assault by media is too much too overcome. The people behind these agencies are usually good people who mean well, but the Laws, and fear of the press (if by chane they were wrong) usually force their hands. The concept of 'better 100 guilty men go free than to imprison 1 innocent man' is no longer used. That is what there is to worry about, people saying 'if your innocent than you have nothing to worry about' are wrong. I brought these things up in response to them, trying to show that innocence is not always a protection. The government and it's agencies (state and federal) make mistakes, why on earth would anyone want to open themselves to that chance? Government agencies need control and information to do their job well, the less freedoms and privacy the people have, the better they can do their job of protecting those people, but the more information they have the more chances are that somethings can go wrong.

An argument can be made for a completely open society, with no privacy, that the window could go both ways. but I try and not go too deep into the political on these boards.



RX
 

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