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[OT] How can I live without sleep? (Help me P-kitty!)

Here's a related question: "What's the best thing to do: have a shower/bath before bed, or after you wake up?"

Obviously, there are advantages for both, but I'd like to hear your opinions. Personally, I try to have showers in the morning to help me wake up. Also, I feel kinda funny shaving in the morning if I didn't have a shower. There's only been a few times when I don't shower in the morning, but rather at night (after a long shift at work, or I have to get up very early in the morning).
 

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If you're trying to catch catnaps when the opportunity presents itself during the day, don't worry about falling asleep in the sense that you think of doing so at night. Focus on just relaxing your muscles, breathing deeply and rhythmically, and resting your eyes. Twenty minutes of light nap in the middle of the day can vastly better than nothing, and even if you just have a few unnoticed microsleeps while resting you will be giving your body what it wants when you want it.

Similarly, once lack of sleep begins to become worrisome, as it clearly is, it is important to reduce the worry about the fact that you're not sleeping. I finally found a solution to this, ironically enough, because I snore.

See, as far as I know it's normal to drift in and out of a light sleep state several times before falling into a deeper sleep. Probably even more common for people having trouble sleeping. This was driven home to me when I was poked in the ribs for snoring, and I could have sworn I hadn't even fallen asleep yet. So if you're lying in bed and wishing that you would fall asleep, remind yourself that you probably already have once or twice. The fact that you can't tell that you're already on your way doesn't matter.
 
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Piratecat said:
One thing is for sure; the average person needs 7-8 hours to get by with no health or emotional side effects.

Really? I sleep about 5 hours on weekdays, 7-8 on weekends. I always feel tired, but it's generally not too bad for me. I'd sleep longer, but even if I convince myself to get to bed sooner, I don't fall asleep.

Piratecat said:
In addition, you're putting yourself at tremendous risk when you drive, because your chance of falling asleep with your eyes open ("microsleeps") rises dramatically when you're sleep deprived.

There's a word for that? I had no idea. These "microsleeps" scare me; when I start to do that, I always find some way to sleep, even if only for 10-20 minutes. I *know* that's not natural.
 

I don't use an alarm clock to wake myself.
I pretty much wake at the same time every day, if I go to bed at the same time every night.

However, I find that when I go to bed an hour earlier than usual, I actually end up waking an hour late. I don't know if this has something to do with sleep cycles, or what. I don't even know if I'm asking a question. Just making an observation of myself in this forum. hmm.
 

omokage said:
I couldn't imagine life without dreaming. I don't think I'd be a buyer.

I hardly ever dream (before someone lets me know that I do, indeed, dream, regardless of whether I remember it or not, I'm using it in the colloqiual sense), and the few rare times I do, I have really nasty nightmares. I'd prefer to have normal dreams, but I'd settle for something that just stops them entirely in a heartbeat.

And I'm unable to get decent sleep when I actually have plenty of time to do so, anymore.
 

Dr. Rictus' and Incognito's advice (except for the wine) is right on the money.

Here's a good link on common sense insomnia cures. I'm not sure I like these SOB's - elsewhere on the site, they use stolen graphics that I actually created at my last job - but this information is sound. :)

You want to avoid alcohol before bedtime; it disrupts your sleep patterns. you may fall asleep faster, but your sleep will be less restful. Morning exercise is better than late evening exercise, which will keep you awake for several hours afterwards. No caffeine in the evening, either, as several people have said.

Some fast background:

There are basically five stages of sleep: Stage 1 and 2 (light sleep, easy to wake up from), Stage 3 and 4 (deep sleep, hard to wake up from), and (REM sleep, when you dream.) If you wake up from deep sleep, you typically feel groggy.

Stages 1-4 are marked as "NREM 1-4" on this graph:

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You'll see that throughout the night, you change between deep sleep and light sleep a number of times. Going through each cycle takes about an hour and a half, and you repeat this 3-5 times throughout a sleep period. Most of your deep sleep (without which you won't feel refreshed) happens in the first half of your sleep; most of your dreaming/REM sleep (which clears your mind and reduces stress) happens in the latter half.

If you're short on sleep, absolutely the best thing you can do is train yourself to take naps. Remember, though, that there are good naps and bad naps!

A good nap is one of two different types: short (15-20 minutes) or long (about 2 hours.)

A short naps burns away sleep pressure making you drowsy, giving you higher alertness for the next 2-3 hours. This is the type of nap you should take if you are suffering microsleeps while driving your car. (Find a safe place to pull over and shut your eyes for a few minutes. It is the only thing that has been proven to actually be effective in getting you home safely.) Because it's only a few minutes, you'll wake up before you slip into stage 3 sleep. You'll typically wake up feeling great, and refreshed.

A long nap brings you through one complete sleep cycle, waking you up from REM sleep or light sleep. You'll wave up feeling good, and you'll have burned off some of your accumulated sleep debt. This type of nap is pretty healthy; anyone working night shifts should try to get one of these before going in to work.

A bad nap is about 45 minutes to an hour in length. Look at that graphic; since sleep cycles are 90-110 minutes long for most people, where are you after an hour? Right down there in stage 3-4 sleep, that's where. So if you wake up from an hour nap, you'll typically wake up feeling groggy and worse than you did before you lay down. Lots of people say "I'll lie down for an hour," but it's the worst possible length of time to rest for.

This is also why you sometimes wake up before your alarm clock in the morning feeling great (waking out of light sleep), decide to stay in bed, and you feel like crap when the alarm rings. You've slipped back down into deep sleep again. Emokage, this is what is happening to you.

Remember that you can train yourself to nap and fall asleep/wake up quickly. It takes some work, but lots of people (from armed forces personnel to truck drivers) do so. It involves following a consistent routine for a few weeks, trying to nap at about the same time of day every day. Even if you spend the first week just lying there feeling stupid, you're training your body, and you'll soon find yourself dozing off.

Reprisal, A shower at either time is fine. If you have one at night, make it part of your bedtime routine. Just like babies, our bodies like a routine, and you can fool your body into thinking it's bedtime if you follow the same habit patterns that you always follow before going to bed - even if you're trying to go to sleep at 9 am.
 
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Wow. thanks for the info P-Cat.

Heck. If nothing else, I learned when I should and shouldn't get up if I wake before the clock goes off.

Another question: How is it I can consistantly wake just minutes before my clock goes off, even if I go to bed at different times?

Is our "biological clock" really that accurate?
 

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