[OT, Movies] Saw the trailer for Episode II last night . . .

[Ristamar]

Re: Cmon people...

'Hey dude what movie is playing next door?'
'Vanilla Sky'

Typical
Tom Cruise draws in the girls like flies
and so will this ploy, nice one Georgy...

Man, I don't know.... that's reaching. I'd be very shocked to see droves of women attending a Star Wars flick just for the love story.

Regardless (and a bit OT), I gotta say, Vanilla Sky was a really good movie. Of course, I don't credit Tom Cruise for that. I credit the likes of Kurt Russell, director Cameron Crowe, and one of my personal favorite actors, Jason Lee (he's the reason I saw the movie in the first place).

 

[Fenros]

Hey, Wild Karrde....I agree with your stance on the boycott. If you're gonna do it, do it all the way.

The only reason why I brought up that whole other "boycotting the first week" thing is for those who may not be as disciplined. That's all. But I think you already knew that from my previous posts.

----Ashtal wrote: "Women are a little deeper than that, and won't be 'brought in' just because there happens to be a lovestory as part of the movie. Sure, we might like to see some gals on screen, but they aren't required to be mooning over some git just to get our attention. Give us a little more credit, and give some to the men, too. "----

I agree.


----Storm Raven wrote: "Oh, I think most people with functioning brains know that women are deeper than that. Those men (like myself) who are married and live with a woman full-time certainly know that. But we are talking about Hollywood marketing guys here. They have no respect for the intelligence or depth of any of the movie going public, male or female. "----

I agree.


Actually, if there wasn't any strong element of a Love story in development in Episode 2, I would've been very disappointed.


----Wolfspider wrote: "So there's no reason to say that love doesn't belong in Star Wars. I just want it done well--or at least competently."----

I agree. I hope its done well too. But if we're taking bets on whether or not it will be....odds based off previous experiences say it won't be done well. I think that's the heart of my concerns and/or complaints.

I won't know till I hear word from reviewers I trust.

But yes, I think its rather silly to hear people say that the love story element in Ep.2 is stupid. C'mon people.........

 

[Klaus]

The two cents from a looooongtime fan of Ep IV-VI.

Episode I reused script ideas Lucas had for Ep. IV, but had to cut out. Luke was into racing and canyon piloting, and had a bunch of friends, including a would-be girlfriend. This is learned from a SW screensaver that had the script into it. Also, he and Leia were about 16 years-old in the script (as opposed to Han's 30s). Obi-Wan didn't mention Anakin being a Tatooine native, just a great pilot he served with during the Clone Wars.

So, when time came out for Ep I, Lucas felt the urge to include his love of hot rods (American Grafitti?) in it, and turned Anakin into his new Luke. For reasons beyond reason, he tweaked the script to have Anakin be half the age he should have been (8 instead of 16). Now wouldn't Ep I make a lot more sense if Anakin was a 15-16 years old teen? He'd be into cars and have a gang, and Queen Amidala would even be able to flirt with him without acting mother-like! (Those looks she trades with Anakin in the end of Ep. I are so BADLY misplaced! And Anakin's "This one's in the bag!" grin back at her? And now he's 18 and she's what, 34?).

IMHO, Anakin's fall to the Dark Side should occur from revolt, not whine. Say, he goes back to free his mother from the flying gonzo-wannabe, only to find out she's been dead for some time, in an accident. Without anyone to blame, he lashes out at the junkyard-owner (who was pretty kind to him as a kid) and kills him. Once that line is crossed, there's no turnin back. He gets called to serve in the Clone Wars before anyone can find out his deed, but he then starts to think he "got away with it", and begins using the easier path to quell the war, i.e. killing by the bucketfold, revelling in the battlefield. Obi-Wan finds that alarming, and soon discovers the death of Watto. When he confronts Anakin (who, with his newfound boldness conquered the heart of Amidala), sabers fly and Anakin, feeling betrayed by his mentor and his wife, turns to Palpatine, who posion's the young war hero's heart with pride and resentment. Anakin become Palpatine's greatest supporter and, in Ep. III, helps the old coot hunt down the Jedi to the last. When he confronts Obi-Wan again, his anger gets in the way, and he looses his hand to the Jedi's lightsaber, and most of his body to a fissure of molten lava (as per the novelization of Ep. VI). As Ep. III closes, Amidala gives birth to the twins, who are given to Owen Lars and Bail Organa for safekeeping. Amidala and Bail marry and move to Alderaan, where she dies from frail health, just as Anakin's surgery comes to a close, with the newly crowned Emperor welcoming his new enforcer ("Rise, Darth Vader, Lord of the Sith").

That's my two cents, anyway.

 

[Daniel Knight]

The two cents from a looooongtime fan of Ep IV-VI...

...IMHO, Anakin's fall to the Dark Side should occur from revolt, not whine. Say, he goes back to free his mother from the flying gonzo-wannabe, only to find out she's been dead for some time, in an accident. Without anyone to blame, he lashes out at the junkyard-owner (who was pretty kind to him as a kid) and kills him. Once that line is crossed, there's no turnin back. He gets called to serve in the Clone Wars before anyone can find out his deed, but he then starts to think he "got away with it", and begins using the easier path to quell the war, i.e. killing by the bucketfold, revelling in the battlefield. Obi-Wan finds that alarming, and soon discovers the death of Watto. When he confronts Anakin (who, with his newfound boldness conquered the heart of Amidala), sabers fly and Anakin, feeling betrayed by his mentor and his wife, turns to Palpatine, who posion's the young war hero's heart with pride and resentment. Anakin become Palpatine's greatest supporter and, in Ep. III, helps the old coot hunt down the Jedi to the last. When he confronts Obi-Wan again, his anger gets in the way, and he looses his hand to the Jedi's lightsaber, and most of his body to a fissure of molten lava (as per the novelization of Ep. VI). As Ep. III closes, Amidala gives birth to the twins, who are given to Owen Lars and Bail Organa for safekeeping. Amidala and Bail marry and move to Alderaan, where she dies from frail health, just as Anakin's surgery comes to a close, with the newly crowned Emperor welcoming his new enforcer ("Rise, Darth Vader, Lord of the Sith")...

Close. Very close. Trust me, what happens is actually far more darker. It's the main thing I'm looking forward to seeing.

Of course, I trust George to have significant whine inserted into the events as well.

 

[Wild Karrde]

Re: Cmon people...

5 mins Max of Arwen with maybe 2 mins of Galadriel
compared to a whole movie of the princess in the first movie (who did NOTHING)


Harlequin

I think you missed my point or I didn't explain myself very well but supposedly Arwen is in all three films and from what I'm reading is going to be a pretty major player.