D&D 5E Overchanneling and Cantrips

[Particle_Man]

I think in another part of Basic they treat 0 level spells as 1/2 level spells so I would go for 1d12 damage as a 0.5 level spell, when overchannelling cantrips.

 

[stevelabny]

"Starting at 14th level, you can increase the power of your simpler spells. When you cast a wizard spell of 5th level or lower that deals damage, you can deal maximum damage with that spell."

First, I read that as saying you definitely can't use a slot higher than 5th level. But I guess the question is - does a 1st level spell cast with a 9th level slot count as a 1st level spell or a 9th level spell?

Second, I also question if you can mix overchannel with casting in a higher slot at all. Maybe its my innate desire to not try to break things, maybe its my getting hung up on the word "simple". I dunno. But I would like a clarification on that.

 

[Evenglare]

In regards to the question is a first level spell cast at 9th level a 9th level spell. I'm 99% sure the spell at that point is a 9th level spell, I remember reading that explicitly in the core rules, but don't know where off the top of my head.

 

[Psikerlord#]

Hmm given the damage fighters and rogues put out, maxing cantrip damage might actually bring the evoker closer to viable. Unfortunately it's at 14th level, which is so far into a campaign that it isnt worth it.

 

[Nikosandros]

Have a cleric on standby, overchannel meteor swarm and rain doom upon your enemies.

 

[Phoenix8008]

Have a cleric on standby, overchannel meteor swarm and rain doom upon your enemies.

Meteor Swarm is 5th level or lower?

 

[Nebulous]

Meteor Swarm is 5th level or lower?

Yeah, i don't think you can do that with Meteor Swarm. You'd one-shot the Tarrasque.

 

[Nikosandros]

Meteor Swarm is 5th level or lower?

No, it actually isn't. Too bad... it was a fun image, even though probably a broken combo.

 

[Obryn]

Hmm given the damage fighters and rogues put out, maxing cantrip damage might actually bring the evoker closer to viable. Unfortunately it's at 14th level, which is so far into a campaign that it isnt worth it.

It's the "all their spells" which keeps wizards (evokers included, here) on top, not their cantrips.

 

[Truename]

In regards to the question is a first level spell cast at 9th level a 9th level spell. I'm 99% sure the spell at that point is a 9th level spell, I remember reading that explicitly in the core rules, but don't know where off the top of my head.

Page 78, "Casting a Spell at a Higher Level."

When a spellcaster casts a spell using a slot that is of a higher level than the spell, the spell assumes the higher level for that casting.