Overlooked, underappreciated, magic items

[moritheil]

Go forth mine unseen servant! Drop this over yon!

I love that spell, and this is but one of the reasons why.

 

[Saeviomagy]

I've always chaffed at the "no magic items" restriction on Mage Hand as well.

If you want to do magic items, just use an unseen servant.

 

[ARandomGod]

Yeah... it sux because for a while (before I realized this) I would use my bow, then if it got to melee combat I would drop my bow and pull out my melee weapons. If I needed my bow again, assuming I had moved since I dropped it, I would mage-hand it back to me. Well, my bow is magical. I still wear it, and it has gotten me outta some tight places, but it's just not as cool with that seemingly small limitation.

I say, put a small, nonmagical ring around the center of your bow. Lift IT with mage hand, and as long as the ring and the bow aren't more than 5lbs together, lifting the nonmagical ring should drag the bow along with it.

Since that takes special preparation, and I can't see how it's 'overpowered', I think that should be able to overcome this limitation.

You don't use Mage Hand to move the magical dust.

You use Mage Hand to move the non-magical handkerchief that contains the magical dust, and invert it over your opponents.

-Hyp.

And there you are, a similar thought that really should also work.

 

[Lasher Dragon]

Good idea Random - thank you

 

[KarinsDad]

You don't use Mage Hand to move the magical dust.

You use Mage Hand to move the non-magical handkerchief that contains the magical dust, and invert it over your opponents.

Did I catch Hyp in a RULES violation???

Target: One nonmagical, unattended object weighing up to 5 lb.

Any container with something in it (such as a potion bottle with a potion in it or a non-magical handkerchief that contains the magical dust) would literally be more than one object.

 

[cignus_pfaccari]

Ring of Telekinesis: Sure, it's expensive, but it brings the rogue into a whole new world of B&E. Worried that the trap controls have booby traps? Use the ring and manipulate them from around a corner!

Field Provisions Box: Never worry about food again for less than the cost of a +1 sword.

Magic Sleeping Bag: Be all warm and snuggly and save on healing expenses, for 1000 gp!

Travel Cloak: Keeps you warm when walking? Check. Keeps rain off you, even in the worst downpour? Check. All the day's food and drink you need? Check. Turns into a tent for the night? Check. And it's only 1200 gp!

Adamantine Dagger: Falling down near a wall and don't have Slow Fall? Use this to give yourself an easy handhold!

Golembane Scarab: "Wait, for 2500 gp, I can beat the (bleep) out of golems and not have to buy expensive adamantine weapons? All right!"

Brad

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

Did I catch Hyp in a RULES violation???

Nope.

Target: One nonmagical, unattended object weighing up to 5 lb.

Any container with something in it (such as a potion bottle with a potion in it or a non-magical handkerchief that contains the magical dust) would literally be more than one object.

And yet, when you select the target for the spell, you may only select a single object. That object needs to be nonmagical. There is no requirement that it not be tied to or surrounding something else.

Similarly, a Charm Person spell can have an effect upon items (Target: One humanoid creature, and "Say, can I borrow your knife?"), even though it cannot target them directly.

 

[KarinsDad]

And yet, when you select the target for the spell, you may only select a single object. That object needs to be nonmagical. There is no requirement that it not be tied to or surrounding something else.

So, are you claiming with this that you can move a potion by moving the potion bottle?

That seems to go against the spriit of the spell (even though I can buy into the literal reading).

 

[Patryn of Elvenshae]

So, are you claiming with this that you can move a potion by moving the potion bottle?

Yep. Or the cork - though that might cause problems with heavy potions.

You could not use the spell to move, say, a magic ring - because the ring in its entirety is magical. Similarly, you could not use this spell to move a Decanter of Endless Water - again, the whole thing is magical.

 

[KarinsDad]

Yep. Or the cork - though that might cause problems with heavy potions.

Potions heavier than 5 pounds??? That's 5 pints or over a 5/8th gallon potion. Doubtful that any cork would weight that much, even made out of metal.

You could not use the spell to move, say, a magic ring - because the ring in its entirety is magical. Similarly, you could not use this spell to move a Decanter of Endless Water - again, the whole thing is magical.

This ruling, however, does make it that you could "prep" items ahead of time in order to get past the spell restriction. For example, you could tie a cloth around your magic bow or put a twine around the top of the Decanter of Endless Water or a string around your magic ring.

Kind of defeats the purpose of the non-magical part of the spell, yes?