D&D 5E Paladin just committed murder - what should happen next?

[FrogReaver]

You're seriously arguing that the big bang created morals?

I'm arguing that is a possibility. Along with God created morality being a possibility. Along with the possibility that morality predated the big bang, just as numbers may have as well.

All those are possibilities that you want to discount and ridicule but they are possibilities nonetheless.

 

[FrogReaver]

We are the product of how we are raised. All you have to do to see the truth of this is look to extremists. They are raised to believe that killing everyone who doesn't agree with them is moral. To them it IS moral. To us, who are raised differently, it isn't. If everyone was raised to believe that those things were moral, they would be.

Exhibit A of where subjective morality fails. "Extremists that kill people for disagreeing with them are moral."

 

[TaranTheWanderer]

@FrogReaver

I don't want to become embroiled in this conversation but I want to leave this: In many cultures, Human sacrifice used to be an acceptable way of appeasing the gods. Society no longer finds this acceptable.

So, what you might consider an atrocity today, may not have been an atrocity in another society.

 

[FrogReaver]

@FrogReaver

I don't want to become embroiled in this conversation but I want to leave this: In many cultures, Human sacrifice used to be an acceptable way of appeasing the gods. Society no longer finds this acceptable.

So, what you might consider an atrocity today, may not have been an atrocity in another society.

Right. That sounds like a point that supports objective morality. "What they were doing was immoral but they thought it was moral"

 

[5atbu]

I think this quote is fitting. "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet."

And yet if they were called "stinky poo plants", would they?
Wittgenstein suggested not

 

[FrogReaver]

And yet if they were called "stinky poo plants", would they?
Wittgenstein suggested not

They would smell the same whatever they were called. Calling something a different name doesn't change it's scent.

 

[Maxperson]

Exhibit A of where subjective morality fails. "Extremists that kill people for disagreeing with them are moral."

Clearly you don't understand how morality works, then.

 

[Maxperson]

Right. That sounds like a point that supports objective morality. "What they were doing was immoral but they thought it was moral"

Nope. What they were doing was moral then, but isn't moral now. Subjectivity at its best.

 

[FrogReaver]

Clearly you don't understand how morality works, then.

I'm not the one who said killing people that disagree with you is moral.

 

[FrogReaver]

Nope. What they were doing was moral then, but isn't moral now. Subjectivity at its best.

Exhibit B as to why subjective morality fails. Human Sacrifice was moral and could one day be so again.