Palpatine's Big Plan **Ep III Spoilers**

[griff_goodbeard]

As Ankh-Morpork Guard said, it goes into greater detail in the Labyrinth of Evil novel about the whole Syfo-Dias, Dooku connection.

It basically says the Syfo-Dias, a jedi, foresaw alot of the problems the JO and the republic would have and he ordered the Clone army. Dooku didn't leave the JO until sometime after the Battle of Naboo and was disenfranchised with order. Dooku was also fascinated by the Sith legends and when he left the order he searched out Sideus and ended up being recruited by him. Dooku ends up murdering his friend Sifo-Dias which seals his conversion to the dark side.

 

[Rel]

As Ankh-Morpork Guard said, it goes into greater detail in the Labyrinth of Evil novel about the whole Syfo-Dias, Dooku connection.

It basically says the Syfo-Dias, a jedi, foresaw alot of the problems the JO and the republic would have and he ordered the Clone army. Dooku didn't leave the JO until sometime after the Battle of Naboo and was disenfranchised with order. Dooku was also fascinated by the Sith legends and when he left the order he searched out Sideus and ended up being recruited by him. Dooku ends up murdering his friend Sifo-Dias which seals his conversion to the dark side.

If this is canon, I'm perfectly willing to accept it. But I still think it constitutes a violation of genre conventions for Pulp to just throw Sifo-Dyas name out there with a big fat question mark over it and then never really mention it again. At the very least they could have had Obi-Wan and Dooku have a brief exchange in Ep II like:

Dooku - "I'd much rather you cooperate than have to destroy you. I don't wish to go down that road again."

Obi-Wan - "Wait! It was YOU who destroyed Sifo-Dyas, wastn't it?!"

Dooku - "He was an old friend but he began to interfere with our plans and had to be removed. I've always regretted that he refused to join us..."


Sincerely,

Rel (who can write dialogue as good as Lucas and isn't proud of it. )

 

[BrooklynKnight]

If this is canon, I'm perfectly willing to accept it. But I still think it constitutes a violation of genre conventions for Pulp to just throw Sifo-Dyas name out there with a big fat question mark over it and then never really mention it again. At the very least they could have had Obi-Wan and Dooku have a brief exchange in Ep II like:

Dooku - "I'd much rather you cooperate than have to destroy you. I don't wish to go down that road again."

Obi-Wan - "Wait! It was YOU who destroyed Sifo-Dyas, wastn't it?!"

Dooku - "He was an old friend but he began to interfere with our plans and had to be removed. I've always regretted that he refused to join us..."


Sincerely,

Rel (who can write dialogue as good as Lucas and isn't proud of it. )

except that he could never have joined them

There can only be 2 sith remember?

 

[Rel]

except that he could never have joined them

There can only be 2 sith remember?

That's just what you say for PR purposes. Plus there's no rules against establishing a Farm League for the Sith, right? "Join today and get your Jr. Sith Scouts badge and Secret Decoder Ring!"

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

If this is canon, I'm perfectly willing to accept it. But I still think it constitutes a violation of genre conventions for Pulp to just throw Sifo-Dyas name out there with a big fat question mark over it and then never really mention it again. At the very least they could have had Obi-Wan and Dooku have a brief exchange in Ep II like:

Dooku - "I'd much rather you cooperate than have to destroy you. I don't wish to go down that road again."

Obi-Wan - "Wait! It was YOU who destroyed Sifo-Dyas, wastn't it?!"

Dooku - "He was an old friend but he began to interfere with our plans and had to be removed. I've always regretted that he refused to join us..."

Well, it was originally going to be spelled out in RotS. However, the movie had enough to deal with and Sifo-Dyas was a very minor point when you get right down to it. So, it was relegated to the Labyrinth of Evil novel.

There can only be 2 sith remember?

Dark Jedi =/= Sith.

 

[The Serge]

It still doesn't add up that Sifo-Dyas ordered the Clone Army. Everyone is forgotting that when Kenobi calls "the old folks' home" that both Windu and Yoda are furious at discovering the order of the Clone Army.

What makes more sense (which is why the EU authorized Labryinth of Evil doesn't do this) is that Dyas was murdered by Tyrannus who then impersonated him and his connections (I think Dooku was associated with the Jedi Archives and could have used the materials therein to this end) to order the Clone Army as Sifo-Dyas.

As for not addressing it in either RotS or (more appropriately) in AotC, Lucas and co. do what they do best: introduce another glaring oversight that could be easily patched over with some decent writing... or not introduced at all.

 

[Rel]

As for not addressing it in either RotS or (more appropriately) in AotC, Lucas and co. do what they do best: introduce another glaring oversight that could be easily patched over with some decent writing... or not introduced at all.

This is pretty much my point. It all seems like it would be so elegant if the Sifo-Dyas=Dooku thing were true. But the canonical explanation is clunky by contrast and even makes the movie worse by its explanation or lack thereof (IMHO).

It's not that I'm innately a Lucas hater or someone who doesn't like the prequel trilogy. It's just that so many of its problems seem so easily addressed. *sigh*

 

[Orius]

My biggest unanswered question is this: The Jedi apparently know when someone is capable of using the force when they're small children. They also recruit these children from Republic worlds when they're very young. So how did Palpatine go overlooked, especially when he ends up as someone in a fairly prominent role?

 

[Rel]

My biggest unanswered question is this: The Jedi apparently know when someone is capable of using the force when they're small children. They also recruit these children from Republic worlds when they're very young. So how did Palpatine go overlooked, especially when he ends up as someone in a fairly prominent role?

Clouded by the Dark Side their vision was. Overlooked this dangerous individual they did.

Awkward this sentence structure is.

 

[Captain Tagon]

My biggest unanswered question is this: The Jedi apparently know when someone is capable of using the force when they're small children. They also recruit these children from Republic worlds when they're very young. So how did Palpatine go overlooked, especially when he ends up as someone in a fairly prominent role?

He is powerful enough to shield his abilities to use the force.