Paying for Game Day

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I got to DM one table at the event held at our local Barns and Noble and, as mentioned by everyone else, no charge. It was cool. I got to run a table of complete newbies, specifically three ten year old girls and a 40+ mom. They very much enjoyed making the adventure for the other table (and were dissapointed no one died!) and had a lot of fun with their game. They ended up going home with the intro box set and a bunch of the promo mini's. I was quite surprised at how quick they picked it up. I was impressed when the girl playing the swordmage suggested splitting the party and the girl playing the artificer said, "I'm the only healer and I won't be able to help everyone if we split up." In only two hours of play time she learned "never split the party" all on her own ;)
 

This is Jared, from Dr. NO's. I am the assistant manager of the store. I just wanted to give you a response to your complaints. I understand you were not expecting the requirement of a purchase for the event, and I am sorry you did not know about it before hand. However, the last game day at our store was run the same way. The reason for this purchase is to ensure that our regular customers have first chance at the events because space is very limited, and they are grateful for the ability to reserve their seats. Also, the purchase of the product does not have to be on that day; customers who are buying D&D products in the weeks leading up to the event and who express an interest in playing will have their spots reserved. One last reason for the purchase came about through the change in event style. Originally, D&D Game Days were meant to introduce people to rpgs through the event known as Free RPG Day; however, WotC strayed away from that when they started making them what are essentially release events for new books and held them more frequently. These release events are aimed at players that are already playing D&D 4th edition, so a majority of them are already planning on purchasing the new book from us.

The smaller turnout for the game day goes beyond what you are stating in your post. One of our more popular DMs notified us earlier in the week about serious health issues he was facing, and he regretfully had to cancel his game. Upon hearing this, we notified players who specifically wanted to take part in his adventure and they decided to wait until the next game day. Also, this same weekend, there was a convention taking place no more than twenty minutes from our location, which impacts customer turnout at times.

The final comment I would like to address from your post is the misinformation you received. You state: "The store clerk said it was something mandated by WotC, and that every other store running Game Day would be doing the same thing. He claimed that WotC needed the sales to justify the cost of printing the character sheets and maps and such." What I actually said was that the purchase needed to be made for reasons I stated above. I believe the other information you are stating that I said came from another player in the group that ended up joining into the conversation because I have no knowledge of WotC's financial investment into these events and would have never lied to a customer; that is just bad business. I had to attend to customers on the comic side of the store as the discussion of the purchase continued, and I am sorry I was not on that side to catch any of the factual errors that someone may have stated. To be clear, whomever you heard the additional information from is not affiliated with the store.

Again, I am sorry you fell you have been cheated. I know for a fact that the other DM and his group that joined yours had a wonderful time and fully expected the purchase of a D&D product; they also plan to return to the next event.
 
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Jared,

I appreciate you chiming in. Yes, you are correct: everyone did have a good time (even though we were pretty rushed there at the end, but that was my fault). I didn't mean to misrepresent what you said (or what I understood you to have said); yesterday I was left with the impression that the "buy-in" was a WotC-mandated deal, and that all participating venues would be doing something similar. I apologize if I misunderstood you.

I hope we can work this all out to everyone's satisfaction (and, ultimately, drive up business for you and for WotC).
 

Jared_M - You can just as easily make reservations for table spots without charging. Same service with less BS attached.

Marketing 101 - The more people you get into your store the better chance of making a sale. Also, if you have PILES of players who then enjoy a 4e game, they are going to be impressed and you increase the chance of a sale. Also, you create more players. D&D marketing 101 - more players = more RECURRING sales.

Why not work with the convention to run D&D day there? And bring product to sell? I have a friend who owns a game store. We just bring the store to the convention.

I think charging customers to participate in Game Day is underhanded. If I was a WOTC rep, I would revoke your status for the practice.

Regardless of your excuses, the practice is a bad one. Unless you stop, you will be one of the countless opportunist $#$%-heads that own game stores (and run them badly...). Get a clue. There is no excuse for dropping the ball on the opportunities Dr. No's had from both Game Day and that local convention. I hope you will change your practices and pay more attention in the future.

Regards,
 

I appreciate the responses from GuJiaXian and the free Marketing 101 class from TreChriron.

To clear one last thing up, this was approved by our WotC rep. We always clear this type of thing with what ever company is holding an event. Second, attending a convention with store inventory means you either have to maintain a con inventory or remove product from the store that people would expect to be there when they came to the shop. Also, I believe this has been all very over the table, nothing underhanded about it.
 
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Well....whatever works for you in your area I guess. I know in my area this would never fly. I know If the event I had attended had said that was the requirement I would have walked out, went across town, and bought the DMG2 and Reveng of the Giants there, just on principle. YMMV.
 

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I would have walked out, went across town, and bought the DMG2 and Reveng of the Giants there, just on principle.

QFGJ.

First of all, you have handled the reaction to this wrongly. You should not have said "I appreciate the free Marketing 101 class", because that just makes you look like a jerk. You should definitely not respond to this with "I appreciate the free Public Relations class". You shouldn't have made it appear as though it was WotC's fault, because just because this is a separate event from Free RPG Day does not mean that it shouldn't be free.

And as for the situation itself - you should not force people to buy a D&D book to participate in an event that's supposed to introduce people to D&D. There are three possible scenarios that will come of this:

a) The Ideal Scenario: Someone buys the book, has a fun time, and keeps the book.
b) The Return Scenario: Someone buys the book, doesn't enjoy themselves, and returns the book after the event.
c) The Alienation Scenario: Someone would have participated, but doesn't want to buy the book, so they leave the store.

Now, if you hadn't required the purchase of the book, granted, there's a chance people wouldn't buy the books. But at least you wouldn't have LOST any sales - you just would have gained less at first, but in the long run probably ended up with the same number of books sold.

Just my 2 gold.
 

Ultimately every store has to decide if they charge for events or not (be they WotC events, UDE events, GW events, etc).

There are a lot of factors that go into the decision making - the amount of space available for gaming vs. the popularity of gaming at that venue is just one factor I can think of.

What was upsetting - to me (and I'm admittedly nobody) - was the implication that the store was telling people it was a WotC-mandated charge/condition. As it seems that was largely a misunderstanding, to each their own.

For some stores/regions charging for events works out really well and to everyone's favor - in this case it looks like the store's system is designed as a way of rewarding its customers. While you or I might do things differently (I'd allow people without a recent purchase to "fly standby" for example), what works for this store is up to them. While free advice never hurt anyone, how it is presented is going to be critical in how the recipient receives the advice.

For me, personally, this is a matter of "case closed" now that we have both sides of the story.
 
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Well....whatever works for you in your area I guess. I know in my area this would never fly. I know If the event I had attended had said that was the requirement I would have walked out, went across town, and bought the DMG2 and Reveng of the Giants there, just on principle. YMMV.

I am Buck, the manager at Dr. No's Comics and Games.

The last time we ran a D&D event for free (Players handbook 2), everyone who attended had already purchased the book from Amazon or elsewhere. They took space away from our customers who had wanted to play and those customers felt they deserved to play for being our customers. I agree with them.
To solve this we only allow our customers to participate in these type of events (unless otherwise specified by the Publisher.) If a person wants to take part in our events at the tables we designate for "Members Use Only," (as is posted in the gaming area and on the advertising on the television in the game area) they simply have to become a customer, even if it is for that day only. It is a simple policy and is in no way hidden.
Many of you have stated that letting "Free" play would bring in new customers. The "Free D&D Day" and the release weekend of Players Handbook 2, did not gain us any customers. Most said they were from other stores (who do not provide space at all for games.) They did not buy anything that day and left trash behind when they left. I never saw any of those folks again. That day is what changed our policy to what it is now. If someone is not going to be a customer of a store, they should not demand that the store then provide "free" space for play.
Our customers have our table space reserved for them. I would hope your store would do the same for you.
 

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