[PCGAME] The Temple of Elemental Evil

[Olorin]

I've been playing a lot of NWN lately with a Rogue/Fighter, so I've been watching closely to see how it handles Sneak Attacks and AoOs.

I don't get sneak attacks if I am the only one attacking an enemy. If someone else is I get them occasionally, I guess it depends on how the system figures out someone is "flanked". I also get sneak attacks with a bow if the target is in melee with someone else (slight departure there). So basically you only want to engage enemies that have someone else on them.

As far as AoOs go, it seems reasonably close to the rules. If you drink a potion, fire a bow, cast a spell, etc. within melee range, there is an AoO. I think 5 foot steps are actually in the game to some degree, I've moved a short distance away from an enemy and drank a potion with no AoO, but if I run away I usually get one. Running by enemies definitely incurs AoOs.

I also have high hopes for ToEE also, I am looking forward to a nice turn-based combat system with more of the 3E ruleset implemented. There is something to be said for real-time combat as well though, they each have their plusses and minuses.

 

[Dreeble]

PoR2 and NWN

Heya:

My experience with PoR2 has been that 5' steps _are_ in the game. This can be observed by the fact that sometimes a PC can't attack a monster. Move a smidge up and now that PC can full attack the monster. Etc. 100% agree on the "attack mages with impunity." I really hope ToEE allows the player to protect his or her mages effectively _and_ allows a lich (or whatever) to have its underlings protect it effectively. I think designers can make turnbased combat fun in ways realtime sometimes isn't (due to the lack of control) by having things like this (protecting allies), taking advantage of cover, etc.

My experience with NWN and specifically sneak attacks (I'm currently playing a series called Citadel of Blood with a Dwarf Rogue5/Fighter 9) is that I can get sneak attacks in the _middle_ of a fight against a single opponent, with nobody else attacking it. Weird, and maybe I'm interpreting things incorrectly. Basically, my opinion has been that the BG series made sneak attacks (well, backstabs) far too rare, NWN makes them far too common (maybe because flanking in NWN only requires two attackers anywhere on the defender rather than on opposite sides), with PoR2 being fairly close to "right".

If they release a demo (say, of the Moathouse) for ToEE, I'll be very, very pleased.

Take care,
Dreeble

 

[Ashrem Bayle]

Screenshot! Well... kinda.

http://www.gamespy.com/asp/image.as...image=/previews/february03/toeevil/nguyen.jpg

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

The ToEE trailer is out!

Follow the link to download the 11MB zip file.

Awesome! And they confirm it's going 3.5!

Edit: Rumor is someone jumped the gun on releasing this, so it may not be up long ...

 

[KenM]

I downloaded the trailer, looks like its going to ROCK. Beholders, geltanious cubes, all sorts of stuff. judging from the trail, looks like it might play like Arcanum. Now I'm really looking forward to it. Has anyone heard how ToEE will be doing character creation? point buy or rolling? Point buy makes sense in an online game like NWN for balance, but not in a single player game like this will be, I want to roll my stats.

 

[Welverin]

Edit: Rumor is someone jumped the gun on releasing this, so it may not be up long ...

Yeah, I'd say it was leaked considering it ends with "Legal Goes Here."

 

[mmu1]

Heh, did anyone else get a kick out of the huge fiery demon facing a single character in a gray robe?

 

[Greyhawk_DM]

I liked the dragon breathing....looked very, very cool.....
Heck the whole thing looked awesome.....

 

[Lordrel]

dang

Missed it. "Removed by request from Infogrames".

But it is still available in other place.
Looks pretty good so far.

 

[Ashrem Bayle]

Cool..........