Picard Season 3

[bloodtide]

Plus, the episode is called Dominion.

Maybe, guess we have to see. But having the whole Dominion turn "renegade" kinda ruins the Odo hero arc. Or maybe it's just a couple normal changlings.

I think the Picard DNA is a Red Hearing....after all they could get it from the Picard Bio bot body.

The most obvious thing...the most unique thing....is Locutus. Picard is just about the only borg to keep their memories, be part of the collective and be a singular named individual.

And taking control of all the linked ships on Frontier Day seems to be obvious. As soon as they said "all the ships are networked" I heard "for easy take over". Plus it is exactly Agnus did in season 2....

Other stuff seems silly....like "use Picards body to call the Nexus to destroy the Sol system and all of Starfleet? Have a Changeling copy Picard....and...and...and....um, tell the Federation to surrender? Could Changeling Picard activate the Federation Starfleet Self Destruct?

 

[Morrus]

So question—i must have missed this in a previous episode. What happened to the Titan’s crew? There’s only about a dozen people left on the ship. I recall something about them being taken over to the other starship during the Ensign Ro episode, but assumed that didn’t happen as they realised it was commanded by changelings? Or did I misremember?

 

[MarkB]

So question—i must have missed this in a previous episode. What happened to the Titan’s crew? There’s only about a dozen people left on the ship. I recall something about them being taken over to the other starship during the Ensign Ro episode, but assumed that didn’t happen as they realised it was commanded by changelings? Or did I misremember?

Ro arranged for most of the Titan's crew to be transferred to the Intrepid, to reduce the chances of any changeling infiltrators being left aboard the Titan. She left them with a skeleton crew, intending to buy them some time to escape once she returned to the Intrepid.

 

[Morrus]

Ro arranged for most of the Titan's crew to be transferred to the Intrepid, to reduce the chances of any changeling infiltrators being left aboard the Titan. She left them with a skeleton crew, intending to buy them some time to escape once she returned to the Intrepid.

But they discovered the Intrepid is run by changelings, right? So all the crew are in a bit of a dire spot?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Jack, Jack, he's the Kwisatz Haderach.

But - but - he was the chosen one, he was going to bring balance to the Force.

 

[MarkB]

But they discovered the Intrepid is run by changelings, right? So all the crew are in a bit of a dire spot?

Ro knew that, whether run by changelings or not, the Intrepid was sufficiently infiltrated by them that it would be a death sentence for Picard, Jack etc. to go there. But we're still probably only talking about a handful of infiltrators - it's not like the whole crew were changelings.

So the Titan's crew weren't in any more danger there than they'd be in on any other Starfleet ship, and a lot less than if they'd stayed aboard a fugitive Titan that still had changelings aboard it.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

But they discovered the Intrepid is run by changelings, right? So all the crew are in a bit of a dire spot?

Probably about as much as any other infiltrated place in Starfleet. Maybe a bit worse, depending on what they knew already about the changling infiltration. I think at the minimum they could serve as hostages that are closer to the Titan crew than most.

There are an awful lot of people on the Trek forums who think Picard and Jack are both somehow the "next evolution of humanity", and are not, it seems, making an X-men joke as I might expect. I have to say I am totally not seeing it. Neither of them is that exceptional. And the idea that Q has some kind of elaborate motivation based on magic powers Picard potentially has seems to utterly fly in the face of Q's behaviour and personality to me. Q liked Picard because Picard was fun to torment (and probably Q knew he was important to the future of the Federation), but I think if Picard was a magic special boy in a sense beyond that, that would have been a turn OFF for Q, not a turn on.

I kinda agree, but just because I don't particularly like it doesn't mean the writers wouldn't.

Some fans speculate that Q only visited DS9 once because during his visit (maybe when Sisko beat him in the face), he realized that Sisko was a prophet or at least deeply connected to them. That got him either scared or disinterested, he prefers dealing with real humans.

 

[bloodtide]

Well....the Band id Back Together!

So, as the season is just about over..we get the weird alter reality things:

Stab a Changeling with a blade and they fall down and die?

Every Starfleet officer has special codes?

And, suddenly, Changelings can't survive in space?

And only four torpedoes obliterate the Shrike?

Well, lets see what is behind the door....and why "Irumodic Syndrome" is so important to destroying the Federation.

 

[MarkB]

Stab a Changeling with a blade and they fall down and die?

They don't die - captain Shaw learned that the hard way last episode - but it does seriously inconvenience them. The price of their more precise mimicry of the humanoid form, presumably. Note Worf's John Wick style extra tap of vapourising the downed changelings with his phaser.

Every Starfleet officer has special codes?

Yeah, that seemed like a double-edged sword at best. I could see it being a code that the senior officers of that ship would have, but that's not how they played it.

And, suddenly, Changelings can't survive in space?

The only changeling we've seen who did fine in space did so by mimicking the form of a naturally-spaceborne creature. Maybe Vadic didn't know such a form, or maybe, again, her more specialised evolution isn't all positive, and she was simply too humanoid to cope with the conditions.

And only four torpedoes obliterate the Shrike?

It's packed with every weapon imaginable and a few more. Such ships tend to be a bit of a powder keg.

 

[Clint_L]

Is it good? I'm not reading the rest of the thread to avoid spoilers, but should I watch it? I liked season one okay, but I only endured season 2 because I wanted to get to season 3 and see the old crew back together. Please tell me it was worth it, because season 2 was one of the stupidest things I've ever watched.