Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[MoonSong]

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There's a funny story behind the 4004. The chip was created for a contract with a Japanese calculator company. When the engineer sent to oversee the advances -Shima Masatoshi- arrived at Intel, he found they had done basically nothing in the last few months. He was very pissed and began yelling at everybody just to be shut up by the engineer in charge of the project -Federico Faggin- who yelled back at him. He was new at Intel and had been working at it for less than a week. Both ended up working together on the design and later Shima joined Intel and eventually followed Faggin into Zilog. They together are responsible for the Intel 4004, 8008, 8080; and the Zilog Z80.

 

[MoonSong]

There's a very distinct bitter tang to Diet Coke for me which isn't present, or is massively dialed down, in Coke Zero. IME people who genuinely like Diet Coke find Coke Zero and inferior substitute.

They only made Coke Zero because Diet Coke had been marketed so hard towards women that men refused to drink it. Not a problem until men started to be health conscious and Coca-Cola couldn't sell them their existing sugar free drink, so they made a new one and made it "manly".

 

[Ryujin]

Not necessarily, technology development isn't linear nor steady. Right now we are at peak "gold rush" stage of the cycle. Investor money is subsidizing the development and the operation of the AI models. Outside of very specific applications, no real "killer app" use has materialized to justify how expensive it is to run the larger models. Right now they are the cheapest they'll be to the general user. Open Ai loses money with every request made by paying users. And we are getting to the point where stakeholders are starting to demand RoI on all the AI investments over the last few years, so investor money is bound to fry up soon. So far, only Nvidia is making bank while everybody else just keeps spending hand over fist.

And then there's the physical and data limits of the technology. Chips are getting closer and closer to the smallest size they can be, while the energy requirements to keep the data centers running increase year after year straining electrical grids. And then they are running out of clean data to train new models. (Just the smallest amount of data not made by humans can collapse a model hard) The current approach to AI is a technological dead end that will leave some useful stuff in the process, but not the road to Skynet many fear (or hope). Outside of the most trivial tasks -or some of the most specific and domain restricted models-, models output has to be cleaned up and processed by a human to be useful, to the point it is a full-time job in many places.

All that I can think of, at the moment, is the dot.com bubble and all the vapourware that caused it.

 

[CleverNickName]

For the love of Pelor, learn to disengage. If you stop responding to the troll, it will starve for attention and go away.

Seriously, stop trying to one-up them. Stop trying to "win" something. Dont click anything, just roll your eyes and scroll past.

 

[Mannahnin]

They only made Coke Zero because Diet Coke had been marketed so hard towards women that men refused to drink it. Not a problem until men started to be health conscious and Coca-Cola couldn't sell them their existing sugar free drink, so they made a new one and made it "manly".

Which is kind of hilarious considering how more bitter beverages like whisky or beer are often culturally considered more "manly", but in this case it's the word "diet" being considered more feminine than the word "zero", regardless of the actual flavors. Pure marketing to cultural conditioning.

 

[Scribe]

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Oh Pfizer secured an exception? I'm so shocked. /s

 

[prabe]

Which is kind of hilarious considering how more bitter beverages like whisky or beer are often culturally considered more "manly", but in this case it's the word "diet" being considered more feminine than the word "zero", regardless of the actual flavors. Pure marketing to cultural conditioning.

There does seem to be something distinctly dude-ish about the obsessions among some fan-bros with peat levels (in ppm) or hoppy bitterness (in IBUs).

That said, my own carbonated beverage of preference is a Zero, not a Diet, and I do feel as though it's a preference based on the actual taste/s (I was drinking the Diet for years before the Zero came out ...).

 

[soviet]

The correct best diet cola is Pepsi Max (in various flavours) - it has a maximum amount of no sugar, hence the name.

 

[Deset Gled]

Diet Coke definitely has more aftertaste for me that Coke Zero. I'll drink either but prefer the Zero.

I liked the 10 calorie line of diet sodas that came about a decade or so ago. I don't think there's any left, unfortunately.

 

[trappedslider]

For you maybe, but for me it created my dream job, computer design and graphics.

I'm also thinking about @Scribe are you? Or you being selfish and only thinking of yourself?